More…and More

by admin on February 14, 2006

in Innovation

I had quite a pop at More Software the other day but I did get in touch with business owner Bob Harper who is ex-Big Four and who has been in practice for some years. After a – I would say passion filled but that would be over-egging the pudding – email exchange, Bob called me and we had a lengthy and valuable discussion. At least it was valuable to me.

Unlike other vendors, More is attempting to deal with the pain of small business book-keeping. They’re not delivering an accounting package. The idea is that end clients take a measure of responsibility for their books. In return, More – or rather its practice associates – will buy the solution on clients’ behalf and make no charge for its use. It’s a condition of the deal.

Clients only get to use it when they demonstrate they have understood how More works. At the client end, More is a desktop application but is fired over to the practice as an electronic file for incorporation into an accounts production package or spreadsheet. In effect , it is a hybrid desktop-SaaS style package. Updates are done server side so when a client logs into the system, the server recognises whether updates are required.

More solves the age old book-keeping problem by presenting the client with what ‘looks’ like a book along with a comprehensive set of video tutorials (I mean like north of 40) the client must complete before they can be licensed to use the software. Bob reckons it will take the average very small business owner (VSMB) between 90 minutes and two hours to learn and get accredited to use the software. This is seriously innovative. Although they’re in the early stages of marketing the product I think this has a genuine chance of success. In fact I think this is a racing certainty. Why?

It is a win-win-win. The solution is packaged in lots of 50 ‘clients’ the practice licenses for £30/client/year. It represents barely a half hour of a junior/semi-senior’s time per client. Why is it a win for the client? As Bob and I agreed, the meat of current fees is in book-keeping and other totally non-value add, useless compliance tasks. Alongside sorting out mistakes and trying to understand errors in client records. It has always been so and was a reason why I couldn’t see a future in the profession back in the early 1990s. At the time, there was no readily identifiable solution. Today there is.

If Bob can persuade clients to take a level of responsibility, then that is the beginning of true partnership between professional and newly minted business person where the client feels they have a stake in the quality of their business records. It also means the firm can save a fortune in grunt work and concentrate on the real value add – managing cash flow, solving business problems, helping clients arrange their lifestyle around a controlled and systemetised method of managing business finance.

Given Philip Woodgate’s observations about the potential of the VSMB market, Bob’s onto a winner. However, I have one caveat. If More can take this innovation and apply it to the SaaS model, I think he’ll be onto a monster. Bob believes he could capture around 150K small UK businesses. And that would be an annually renewable number because of the number of new business that start up AND survive each year. That works even where clients grow out of the package. I think Bob’s being optimistic but it is feasible. If the solution is turned into a SaaS offering, that opens up a world of opportunity. the true Global Microbrand. Just as I think Stefan Topfer is onto something as well. As is David Terrar. Which is more than we can say for the Living Dead.

Bob said he thinks he’ll develop for SaaS in about 2008. I’ll wager a bet he’ll be on the case in 6 months. Thanks for the call Bob – let’s do it again. I learned something interesting.

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Thanks for that Heather it will give me something to read on my train home. I'm looking forward to it. I'm getting a bit bored with the Evening Standard.

Just to get back onto the topic of software - before anyone rushes off and starts using new software please do a bit of planning first. Work out what you want and whether it fits your needs. I've seen too many clients sold a system on a good website/brochure/sales pitch that is either too expensive or does not fit their needs (sometime both).

Amongst other things we needed a web browser based system with the ability to post timesheets and project costing. For us Twinfield fitted our needs.

I don't mind this is off topic. To me it's an extension of the existing discussion.

The site still doesn't render correctly in FireFox on the Mac - that's becoming an extremely important platform. Can't comment on FF on PC.

I think you'll find that we are smooth and sophisticated now Dennis - the MD has come through for us - what a genius I say.

This is all pretty well off topic - sorry about that.
Heather

Heather: The search display area is scrambled. The checkout fields are running into the sidebar area and the contact form is not aligning correctly. Those are design faults. The centre section needs to be wider and dynamic but looks as though it's static. Did you migrate from another platform? Have they made changes outside the WP loop?

update: centre section is static...that's definitely a problem - also, the icons near the search section are not working properly - not sure what a couple of them are meant to do. Integration to shopping cart is cool.

Dear Phillip

Since we put the web shop on the blog - none of my links to categories/ archives or calendar seems to want to work - so this is something we're looking in to. Still, I'm so pleased with having a shopping cart on the 'Soap Blog' - I've been happy to overlook the rest of it - next job (do they ever end?)

Heather

I endorse your findings. I think More is a good product and will let the practice that wants to focus on value-added do just that.

If I still had a large client base preparing their own books and records I would be strongly recommending this product for several reasons.

First it is easy.

Second it seems to work.

Thirdly it means my staff would be using one record keeping system.

Fourth it's cheap.

Fifth it will add to my profits by systematising the whole accounts production process.

I hope Bab Harper succeeds with this.

I certainly can't argue with collaboration between client and accountant. It's something we've been doing for years with VPN based systems and more recently with true SaaS online accounting with Twinfield. Bob Harper nails it on his site with:

"All this means your Accountant can spend more time with you. Time they can use to get a better understanding of you and your business. Time they can invest with you helping you meet the challenges you face and generally being more in tune with you and your business."

Getting the client to take responsibility for their part of the workload is key and is not always as easy as it sounds. We invest a lot of time upfront planning, explaining and training, but it's a good investment and gives a good foundation.

I like Heather's Soap Blog, but I couldn't get the categories to work; shame as I think there's some good stuff in there.

You should've seen it at 9 am this morning! And you're right. There is a reason for its current condition. Personally, I'm getting tired of the design but it's the content that matters at this stage. Thanks for the offer. It's yet another to-do list thingy. It will always look poor in Internet Explorer. Sadly IE breaks so many things that are otherwise great.

Yes my blog is still under construction really - although I am very pleased with the web shop actually on the blog too. I could put a good word in to the MD for you if you're wanting a makeover - cause yours is looking a tad cluttered.

I think about trust relationships all the time Heather - and you've just proved my point. There's an awful lot of folk out there that don't get that. They think it's all about recommendation and that's it. BTW - really great site design. I'm sure I saw this a while back but it looked different. Has it been given a makeover recently?

Can't help saying Dennis that if the Tax Blagger says this is 'A-more' then that is authoritative enough for me.

Nice to see you gave it some thought though.

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