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	<title>Comments on: Tax evasion &#8211; it&#039;s acceptable (and how to fix it)</title>
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		<title>By: David Tebbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Tebbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis: no problem on the NCC stuff - I&#039;ll root around for the source of the misunderstanding and correct it.

Charles: what an interesting post. I&#039;ve always (well, since about 1955) worried about immigrants who are not prepared to accept the values of the receiving country. Lots of food for thought in your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis: no problem on the NCC stuff &#8211; I&#8217;ll root around for the source of the misunderstanding and correct it.</p>
<p>Charles: what an interesting post. I&#8217;ve always (well, since about 1955) worried about immigrants who are not prepared to accept the values of the receiving country. Lots of food for thought in your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies David - i&#039;ve misconstrued something I read elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies David &#8211; i&#8217;ve misconstrued something I read elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles H. Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles H. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great post.  You squarely place tax-evasion in the context of what makes communities and societies work, and it&#039;s a right and proper juxtaposition.

One tiny quibble: it&#039;s just possible that SF&#039;s climate is a bit more encouraging of homeless people than is Oslo&#039;s.  But you&#039;re right, the larger issues are ones of culture and of incentives.

Of the two, I think the social/cultural issues are far greater, though the economic and business community are wont to look to incentives first.

Consider the recent Harvard study about how much stronger the trust and community bonds were within very non-diverse communities (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7e668728-5732-11db-9110-0000779e2340.html
; bad news for those of us rooting for diverse communities.  But not all that surprising.

Inhabitants of Norway are a pretty homogeneous lot; as a distinct culture, it goes back centuries.  Look, by contrast, at Italy, a country whose cultural and linguistic history is even more fragmented and disconnected than its political history.  As someone once suggested to me, the fact that the Catholic church is known for politics and intrigue may have something to do with the See being located in Rome.  Suppose it had been in Berlin?

For an even stronger case, look at Iraq, a &quot;culture&quot; or &quot;nation&quot; or &quot;country&quot; that has never been unified except under extreme threat of force.  Tax compliance without the threat of a gun, I would suspect, would be worse than Italy; which in turn would be worse than San Francisco; which in turn would be worse than Norway.

Tax compliance is a fascinating indicator of social trust.  Ethnic homogeneity is certainly a big driver of social trust, but, as you point out, not the only one.  The blogosphere has some interesting aspects of a trusting community, though I&#039;d suggest only within very narrow boundaries.

As corporations evolve in a connected society, what we&#039;re seeing is the triumph of values and culture over hierarchy and incentives.  When times are stable and people are similar, management tools like command and control and pay for performance work tolerably well.  But when things are in flux, having a shared set of values is far more flexible.

People who follow a set of values will not only adhere to them, but will see adherence to those values as a sign of good faith to members of their community.  The refusal to pay taxes is, ultimately, an act of opting out, a vote of mistrust in the culture, whether it is cast by a conscientious objector to war, a fiddler in the UK, or a conniving  corporation &quot;domiciled&quot; in tax havens.

Effective taxation ultimately depends on the granting of moral legitimacy to the taxing authority by those who submit to being taxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post.  You squarely place tax-evasion in the context of what makes communities and societies work, and it&#8217;s a right and proper juxtaposition.</p>
<p>One tiny quibble: it&#8217;s just possible that SF&#8217;s climate is a bit more encouraging of homeless people than is Oslo&#8217;s.  But you&#8217;re right, the larger issues are ones of culture and of incentives.</p>
<p>Of the two, I think the social/cultural issues are far greater, though the economic and business community are wont to look to incentives first.</p>
<p>Consider the recent Harvard study about how much stronger the trust and community bonds were within very non-diverse communities (<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7e668728-5732-11db-9110-0000779e2340.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7e668728-5732-11db-9110-0000779e2340.html</a><br />
; bad news for those of us rooting for diverse communities.  But not all that surprising.</p>
<p>Inhabitants of Norway are a pretty homogeneous lot; as a distinct culture, it goes back centuries.  Look, by contrast, at Italy, a country whose cultural and linguistic history is even more fragmented and disconnected than its political history.  As someone once suggested to me, the fact that the Catholic church is known for politics and intrigue may have something to do with the See being located in Rome.  Suppose it had been in Berlin?</p>
<p>For an even stronger case, look at Iraq, a &#8220;culture&#8221; or &#8220;nation&#8221; or &#8220;country&#8221; that has never been unified except under extreme threat of force.  Tax compliance without the threat of a gun, I would suspect, would be worse than Italy; which in turn would be worse than San Francisco; which in turn would be worse than Norway.</p>
<p>Tax compliance is a fascinating indicator of social trust.  Ethnic homogeneity is certainly a big driver of social trust, but, as you point out, not the only one.  The blogosphere has some interesting aspects of a trusting community, though I&#8217;d suggest only within very narrow boundaries.</p>
<p>As corporations evolve in a connected society, what we&#8217;re seeing is the triumph of values and culture over hierarchy and incentives.  When times are stable and people are similar, management tools like command and control and pay for performance work tolerably well.  But when things are in flux, having a shared set of values is far more flexible.</p>
<p>People who follow a set of values will not only adhere to them, but will see adherence to those values as a sign of good faith to members of their community.  The refusal to pay taxes is, ultimately, an act of opting out, a vote of mistrust in the culture, whether it is cast by a conscientious objector to war, a fiddler in the UK, or a conniving  corporation &#8220;domiciled&#8221; in tax havens.</p>
<p>Effective taxation ultimately depends on the granting of moral legitimacy to the taxing authority by those who submit to being taxed.</p>
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		<title>By: David Tebbutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Tebbutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention Dennis. I don&#039;t advise the NCC on anything. I do, however, advise its clients, through writing and training activities. Cooperation, collaboration and communication, whether computer-mediated or not, is at the heart of my life.

So you&#039;re right in principle. But very slightly wrong in practice.

Now, if the NCC *would* like me to advise it on community, I&#039;d be only too delighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention Dennis. I don&#8217;t advise the NCC on anything. I do, however, advise its clients, through writing and training activities. Cooperation, collaboration and communication, whether computer-mediated or not, is at the heart of my life.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re right in principle. But very slightly wrong in practice.</p>
<p>Now, if the NCC *would* like me to advise it on community, I&#8217;d be only too delighted.</p>
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