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	<title>Comments on: Toppling a Big Four player, cost: $450 million</title>
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		<title>By: John Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis

I&#039;ve often thought that the responsibility for the selection of an audit firm should be transferred to the Govt/Quango which should be responsible for running a competitive tender for the audit assignment, with company still paying the audit fee.

I feel this would have several benefits
- audit firm couldn&#039;t be threatened by the management of the company with losing the audit &amp; so their (perceived) independence should improve
- rotation would be easy to enforce from the centre
- supplementary services to the company wouldn&#039;t be relevant in the selection process
- as well as competitive tender, the Quango would also have plenty of billing info/data to assess whether the fee was appropriate for the industry sector etc
- alumni ties between companies &amp; audit firms would be irrelevant (how often does the CEO/CFO appoint their old firm!)

Challenge would be to keep the Quango honest &amp; free of links to the audit firms!  As regards being competent to make a selection, I believe that there are enough sufficient skilled folks around that can be co-opted to such a body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis</p>
<p>I&#039;ve often thought that the responsibility for the selection of an audit firm should be transferred to the Govt/Quango which should be responsible for running a competitive tender for the audit assignment, with company still paying the audit fee.</p>
<p>I feel this would have several benefits<br />
- audit firm couldn&#039;t be threatened by the management of the company with losing the audit &amp; so their (perceived) independence should improve<br />
- rotation would be easy to enforce from the centre<br />
- supplementary services to the company wouldn&#039;t be relevant in the selection process<br />
- as well as competitive tender, the Quango would also have plenty of billing info/data to assess whether the fee was appropriate for the industry sector etc<br />
- alumni ties between companies &amp; audit firms would be irrelevant (how often does the CEO/CFO appoint their old firm!)</p>
<p>Challenge would be to keep the Quango honest &amp; free of links to the audit firms!  As regards being competent to make a selection, I believe that there are enough sufficient skilled folks around that can be co-opted to such a body.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Boothby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Boothby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dennis,

You hit the nail on the head with the possibility that management teams might &quot;wake up and question: â€˜What are we getting for our money?&quot;

How much value is there is a bunch of stale SOX documents that do not reflect what is dynamically going on within an organization?

Any of the new blog / wiki tools would move work flows from a collection of hard to trace emails, spreadsheets and word docs into a access controlled, audit trail enhanced environment.

The thing I am interested in is seeing which of the Big 4 realize that the advent of &quot;Personal Servers&quot; is going change the game as much or even more than the advent of PCs.   Which ever member of the Big 4 does get it, they stand to gain tremendous market share over the other three as they show companies how to both do better and reduce SOX costs.

- Rod</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dennis,</p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head with the possibility that management teams might &#8220;wake up and question: â€˜What are we getting for our money?&#8221;</p>
<p>How much value is there is a bunch of stale SOX documents that do not reflect what is dynamically going on within an organization?</p>
<p>Any of the new blog / wiki tools would move work flows from a collection of hard to trace emails, spreadsheets and word docs into a access controlled, audit trail enhanced environment.</p>
<p>The thing I am interested in is seeing which of the Big 4 realize that the advent of &#8220;Personal Servers&#8221; is going change the game as much or even more than the advent of PCs.   Which ever member of the Big 4 does get it, they stand to gain tremendous market share over the other three as they show companies how to both do better and reduce SOX costs.</p>
<p>- Rod</p>
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