On-demand pricing

by admin on March 21, 2007

in Cloud Computing/SaaS

I’ve been having a variety of SaaS/on-demand pricing discussions recently. Those conversations must remain confidential but I can say that without careful attention to detail, it is very easy for SaaS vendors to get into a pickle.

On the one hand, I find it hard to believe it is possible to create a profitable business by $5 a month business services subject to two caveats. The service operator:

  • Is the number one player and has achieved breakout momentum -e.g. Salesforce.com
  • Is providing important but limited capability to a niche that will buy into its model and and which can in turn support a small development team – e.g. Freshbooks (now 135K users registered) and Charlie Wood. (check SpanningSynch’s Blog for price reaction – 106 comments but Charlie assures me he’s doing well.)

Business applications offered as services take time to develop. Winweb has been around for many years. Twinfield has been in business since 2000. Salesforce.com, the poster child for on-demand has been around since 1999. Those costs take some recovering. On the other hand, taking on multiple services can quickly add up to a lot of moolah for the SMB audience.

It therefore came as something of a surprise to see Salesforce.com pitching its forthcoming AppSpace at $995/month for up to 200 users. While this meets my $5 a month criteria if all users are on the system, this comes on top of paying a minimum of $65/user/month with small teams of up to 5 coming in at $695pa for the very basic service. So this is clearly not aimed at the small business. Michael Hickens at internet.com notes:

Project management applications available on AppExchange, Salesforce.com’s application marketplace, have an enterprise cost; others are paid for on a per user basis, which could boost costs significantly if every customer using the portal were counted as a user for those purposes.

Collins said the application is only being released to select customers, who will have to sign up online and then contact a live Salesforce representative, so that those kind of issues can be worked out before it goes into general release.

According to Denis Pombriant, managing principal at Beagle Research, $995 is “just the tip of the iceberg” when it comes to the cost of running something like AppSpace.

“$995 is pretty cheap [for an enterprise application] but you have to invest in building and growing a community and ensuring that you get good participation on the part of the community, and that means someone dedicated full-time or at least part time to community-based activity,” he told internetnews.com.

Yes – and pretty much a fixed price tax. This runs counter to the way in which Phil Wainewright references Treb Ryan, CEO at OpSource:

Success-based pricing: “Based on customer adoption not consumption of resources.” In the traditional hosting model, vendors charge according to bandwidth, disk and processor consumption, he said. In the on-demand world, customers should only be expected to pay for successful use of the application. It’s up to the vendor to bear the cost of the infrastructure until customer usage scales up.

What are the cost implications for those customers in an AppSpace environment? As a sales person, I’d want to expose a lot of information to customers and possibly a lot of functionality – like self-serving customer details, maybe online promotion interactions. Further down the track, I might well want to serve debtor alerts for field service and customers. Quite how much Salesforce will charge for these services doesn’t appear to have been thought through.

But there is another interpretation. If an AppSpace ‘organization’ is deemed to include customers, then it would be worth thinking about taking a number of AppExchange services onboard and simply paying the AppSpace tax. The total cost is unlikely to be much more than $25,000 pa and even if it climbs to $30K, this is still competitive for a 5 person supported sales team *plus* customer group.

This is but one example of how price interpretation can quickly lead to a muddled picture.

This issue is not going away. Neither is it being effectively addressed by the vendor community. Successfully resolving this question for everyone’s benefit will mark out the truly innovative vendors. There is very good reason for clarity right now. SaaS price transparency is one of the key differentiators to more enterprisey applications. List price is meaningless and as Vinnie Mirchandani and Jason Busch are quick to explain, pricing is a complex business. The SaaS vendors are not making it any easier.

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Getting pricing right in any enterprise software business is hard, whether SaaS or not.

At Approvr we are basing our pricing on outcomes. We help companies manage review and approval of business documents so we are planning to base pricing on the number of documents pushed through the system. Our "unit of measure" is the number of Proofs.

In my last company we struggled because different customer segments had different price thresholds and value perceptions for exactly the same product. Ad agencies typically were willing to spend far less on productivity tools than corporate marketing teams.

To solve this we tried matching price point with both perceived value and budget availability for these different segments and then created "versions" of the product for each segment.

Having established broad price points we then had to figure out the unit of measure for the product. We started with users, but that became problematic because there was value in deploying the application even if it was used by just one or two people. In the end we had a mixed pricing model with annual fees, plus user fees in bands.

All in all in was painful and every change caused reaction from some of the existing users.

Not an easy subject to master, but core to any SaaS business.

Thanks for raising the subject and getting the conversation started.

We are still looking at pricing policies through thick smog right now, purveyors of services are stabbing in the dark by setting there own pricing benchmarks.

The only way we will see pricing reach realistic levels (those directly related to their delivery and operation) is through healthy competition. Only a free market of services is likely to resolve fair pricing.

The danger here of course is a small number of service purveyors running away with the batten, that would likely skew pricing in the purveyors favour.

It is up to us as consumers and customers to make the market. This requires education about the services on offer and high quality vendors willing to offer competitive services.

I would also favour a more modular market of service components that can be assembled and customised. This would lead to a naturally more flexible and free market in my opinion.

Sf and AppExchange are exciting on one hand but could prove risky from a competitive point of view as it is also a closed market.

This is a critical time indeed

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