What we have here…

by admin on May 13, 2007

in General

…is a failure to communicate. (With apologies to Cool Hand Luke)

The fractious comments about the latest problems with HMRC’s online filing software at AccountingWeb illustrate a classic failure to communicate.  

Stuart Jones says this of ICAEWs Tax Faculty:

The longer accountants accept the rubbish thrown at them by HMRC the worse it will get it. The professional bodies should be making a stand on their members behalf instead of kowtowing to HMRC & the Government.

Nichola Ross Martin reports Tax Faculty Chairman Paul Aplin as saying:

The ICAEW’s position has always been – and remains – that asking people to file out of hours and at weekends is simply not acceptable. Systems must be made fit for purpose. We have said this again and again both publicly and privately.

I have been in almost constant contact with HMRC’s senior management on this issue over the past few days (including over the weekend). The client list has been accessible since yesterday morning but my colleagues here have found that the system has still been running slowly. HMRC are looking into this. I wish that I could have achieved more but it has not been for want of trying.

I have no direct insight into these conversations but I am aware that the Tax Faculty sees itself as being in an invidious position. On the one hand it is meant to represent the interests of members. On the other hand, it has to work with HMRC on the development of policy.

The two positions are not mutually exclusive and ICAEW could be a lot firmer. Where for example is the press release detailing the problems and the Institute’s response? How is it that Richard Murphy has no difficulty adopting a strident position while being invited to the Treasury? While AccountingWeb may be a magnet for these kinds of complaint, it serves no useful purpose unless ICAEW gets its communications act together. That could be easily remedied. In the meantime, such apparent public inaction makes ICAEWs mantra of Inspiring Business Confidence seem like a hollow claim.

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Thank you Dennis for highlighting this.

Yet again (Monday 11:15 hrs) the HMRC site has crashed and I am unable to file online.

It's all very well Nichola Ross Martin saying that she has "been in almost constant contact with HMRC’s senior management on this issue over the past few days" but it's bleedin' obvious thay aren't taking any notice. After all why should they? The public (= the voters ultimately) don't know about it so why the hell should the government do anything.

As Alastair says go for the "HMRC jugular". Make them so ashamed and so worried for their jobs that they do something to correct this annual farce.

So HMRC continue to treat their "customers" with contempt. Hardly unexpected - they have been doing it for years.

Are ICAEW complicit in this? Its all very well talking about being an influencer on the world stage, but in this instance at least they appear to be well out of their depth.

This is really about client service. And as a representative of their members, the ICAEW should be going for the HMRC jugular.

Dennis

I got my report with that title from the ICAEW

I couldn't help but vote against accepting it. Quite simply, it did not inspire confidence.

What's the problem? I think it's the culture of employment in the ICAEW. If you want to work there you don't rock the boat. The civil service is a positive den of insurgent infidels in comparison

Richard Murphy

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