August 24, 2007
General
Wearing my curmudgeonly hat inside the Enterprise Irregulars Google Group, I’ve been calling into question the stuff Oracle’s president Charles Phillips said to long time colleague Stuart Lauchlan…. Other colleagues Josh Greebaum and Anshu Sharma parsed and moderated:Dennis Howlett of AccmanPro called the claims outrageous leading to a debate on Enterprise Irregulars – and Josh Greenbaum who writes a ZDNet blog, in a rare feat, wrote the following response arguing for the facts in favor of Oracle and I quote him (with permission):Rising to the defense of Charles in a disagreement with Dennis almost sounds crazy, but here goes:The only really outrageous statement comes in the first graf:We’re not trying to preserve something from the 1970s like SAP is. As a company, we were in infrastructure first, then we moved into applications.Correction: SAP is not preserving anything from the 70s (except some of its founders, who ARE relatively well-preserved. And Oracle was NOT an infrastructure company first: they started in database, moved to applications (in 89) and then went into infrastructure.I have no problem with Josh’s remarks – it’s all part of the ebb and flow of debate among people of passion. I’ve since used that discussion as part of a more broad based post about how the ‘new’ meets the ‘old’ in times of technology transition over at ZDNet. So yes – I’ve spun the discussion – but in a different direction.Internally to the group, the discussion has continued with Josh discussing the mess Peoplesoft got itself into and how Charles Phillips – then one of the Wall Street analysts an outsider could rely upon – trashed Peoplesoft and what happened once Dave Duffield, founder and CEO passed the baton to Craig Conway…. Total Ownership Experience — aka totally oversold excrement.Too often in IT I see mutton dressed as lamb, companies with pig’s ears trying to turn them into silk purses or, as seems to be Oracle’s MO – just plain BS’ing your way through…. They’re not the only ones but they are the most egregious.Such forms of marketing begs yet another question: Why, if you’re doing well – as Oracle is – does it remain necessary to puke over the competition, make claims that are blatantly incorrect or wring every ounce of spin from outlying facts?
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August 23, 2007
General
Julie Meyer, who made a mint out of First Tuesday before the tech bubble burst and Michael Cole, a PR person who advises Al Fayed.It’s very hard to compete with Richard’s command of facts and he almost immediately drew laughs from the audience at Mike’s expense. Mike made the absurd assumption the UK is benefiting because Wall Street is being given a hard time by the SEC and the Inland Revenue are giving foreigners a hell of a hard time over there…. Julie Meyer was almost immediately eviscerated by Richard’s ‘Wave the flag and pay the tax’ argument. Tim Congdon of Lombard Street Research put up what must only be described as the lamest argument of all: practicalities is the shape of there are too many people coming into the country and we can’t tax them all…. That’s a different issue.Michael Cole claimed the trickle down effect from rich to poor works…. Failed.Richard floundered a little under Tim’s barrage that centred on the viability of a simple residency rule.Richard’s best argument though was saved for the thrust of all Richard’ opponents when hew said that if the UK is the best place to operate on the basis of general economics and quality of life, then tax would not figure as a disincentive.As Alex said, one of the best floor commenters tax barristers Emma Chamberlain provided one of the best sets of comments:She said the debate was hampered by poor data. If we want to ditch the rules, we need to know what effect it will have.She added that there were plenty of US people who came to the UK who didn’t benefit from the rule, one reason for thinking a lot of people come here because it is a good place to do business. She also outlined some compromise ideas, the Swiss negotiated tax idea and also time limits on the rules.This is one that will run and run.
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