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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/08/01/is-it-over-for-rss-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-5016</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 1st reaction to Twitter was: &quot;This is the biggest fskin&#039; waste of time ever invented.&quot; Then I had an ah-ha moment. There are some good iPhone clients for Twitter including the iPhone Twitterific app plus Hahlo. As to 1% - I think that&#039;s over stating it by a mile. More like 0.0001%.

We&#039;re developing something that can (in the 1st use case) be seen as an auto discovery mechanism in extended network environments. The initial questions is: &quot;Does anyone know why this sales portal is performing badly, users are reverting to manual input?&quot; That&#039;s in an SAP environment (We thought we&#039;d start somewhere easy ;)) but can go out to the whole network.

ESME (as we call it) though we know say Project Harpoon (as in the Fail Whale) seeks to address that in a massively scalable way by using a combination of auto created groups based on tag clouds generated in different ways.

To Vinnie&#039;s point - yep - I&#039;m not saying otherwise, but I really want a single point of access to all the breadcrumbs people in whom I&#039;m interested are leaving. Twitter allows me that cos people can autopost their stuff there and I can pick up accordingly.

An alternative is FriendFeed but I&#039;m not sure I really like that as much, even though I can get threaded conversations there which I can&#039;t at Twitter and which also has a neat iPhone app with FFToGo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 1st reaction to Twitter was: &quot;This is the biggest fskin&#039; waste of time ever invented.&quot; Then I had an ah-ha moment. There are some good iPhone clients for Twitter including the iPhone Twitterific app plus Hahlo. As to 1% &#8211; I think that&#039;s over stating it by a mile. More like 0.0001%.</p>
<p>We&#039;re developing something that can (in the 1st use case) be seen as an auto discovery mechanism in extended network environments. The initial questions is: &quot;Does anyone know why this sales portal is performing badly, users are reverting to manual input?&quot; That&#039;s in an SAP environment (We thought we&#039;d start somewhere easy <img src='http://www.accmanpro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) but can go out to the whole network.</p>
<p>ESME (as we call it) though we know say Project Harpoon (as in the Fail Whale) seeks to address that in a massively scalable way by using a combination of auto created groups based on tag clouds generated in different ways.</p>
<p>To Vinnie&#039;s point &#8211; yep &#8211; I&#039;m not saying otherwise, but I really want a single point of access to all the breadcrumbs people in whom I&#039;m interested are leaving. Twitter allows me that cos people can autopost their stuff there and I can pick up accordingly.</p>
<p>An alternative is FriendFeed but I&#039;m not sure I really like that as much, even though I can get threaded conversations there which I can&#039;t at Twitter and which also has a neat iPhone app with FFToGo.</p>
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		<title>By: Cale Bruckner</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/08/01/is-it-over-for-rss-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-5015</link>
		<dc:creator>Cale Bruckner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been pruning my Google Reader subscriptions recently. I have a &quot;For Morning Coffee&quot; folder that I hit fairly frequently but the subscriptions in that folder are mostly to aggregators like &quot;Items shared by Robert Scoble&quot; and TechCrunch. I let them do the work of finding the relevant and interesting stuff - I just don&#039;t have the time. I use the Twitter stream, supplied by twhirl and a-listers and their friends, to keep a pulse on things and occasionally stumble into the weird and interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been pruning my Google Reader subscriptions recently. I have a &quot;For Morning Coffee&quot; folder that I hit fairly frequently but the subscriptions in that folder are mostly to aggregators like &quot;Items shared by Robert Scoble&quot; and TechCrunch. I let them do the work of finding the relevant and interesting stuff &#8211; I just don&#039;t have the time. I use the Twitter stream, supplied by twhirl and a-listers and their friends, to keep a pulse on things and occasionally stumble into the weird and interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gay Bar</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/08/01/is-it-over-for-rss-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-5014</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gay Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Outsourcing the gathering of information: Is RSS slowly going away?...&lt;/strong&gt;


rss_icon&#169;Vanvan Chen

RSS is everywhere nowadays, you can hardly find a web service that doesn&#039;t publish some kind of feed, showing your activity within the service.

For quite some time now, many people rely on feed readers to aggregate th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Outsourcing the gathering of information: Is RSS slowly going away?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>rss_icon&copy;Vanvan Chen</p>
<p>RSS is everywhere nowadays, you can hardly find a web service that doesn&#8217;t publish some kind of feed, showing your activity within the service.</p>
<p>For quite some time now, many people rely on feed readers to aggregate th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Fouts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Fouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think RSS is dead. I admit that I get 80% of my links from Twitter and FF, but then I will subscribe to the feed for the writers I want to follow. I like to spend some time every day cruising the feeds to see what people are saying. I would miss a lot of good information if I only got info from Twitter and FF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think RSS is dead. I admit that I get 80% of my links from Twitter and FF, but then I will subscribe to the feed for the writers I want to follow. I like to spend some time every day cruising the feeds to see what people are saying. I would miss a lot of good information if I only got info from Twitter and FF.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do use a reader. When I can&#039;t find anything interesting on FF or Twitter for a while. And I do make it part of the daily routine. But I still catch myself not using a reader for days at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do use a reader. When I can&#039;t find anything interesting on FF or Twitter for a while. And I do make it part of the daily routine. But I still catch myself not using a reader for days at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: vinnie mirchandani</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnie mirchandani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with Richard.

Dennis, you know what delights me - hits on 1-2-3 year old posts of mine. I am prouder of my &quot;evergreen&quot; stuff than &quot;breaking news&quot; kind of stuff.

So RSS is not dead, and neither is Google search or links from other bloggers who I respect and link to and they link to mine...to me a balanced set of readers across these &quot;channels&quot; is important...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with Richard.</p>
<p>Dennis, you know what delights me &#8211; hits on 1-2-3 year old posts of mine. I am prouder of my &quot;evergreen&quot; stuff than &quot;breaking news&quot; kind of stuff.</p>
<p>So RSS is not dead, and neither is Google search or links from other bloggers who I respect and link to and they link to mine&#8230;to me a balanced set of readers across these &quot;channels&quot; is important&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Young</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/08/01/is-it-over-for-rss-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dennis - everyone will have an iPhone one day. OK, that&#039;s an exaggeration, but everyone I know with a BlackBerry provided by work who plays with my iPhone wants it immediately. Certainly, devices with a screen big enough to be genuinely useable as browsers will oust all the BlackBerry type devices within a couple of years.

Ironically, I saw the benefits of Twitter much more when I got a client for the iPhone - if I had lots of friends or colleagues using it, I can see now how it might enable me to stay in touch much better. But it really is a microtrend: if you&#039;re part of the 1% of the population that does it, it&#039;s brilliant; for everyone else, it&#039;s utterly mystifying.

I would be fascinated by enterprise twitter. How would it go beyond a system of notifications (&quot;I&#039;ve finished the paint job, vanishing can start at 15:45&quot;) or a short-format chat room (&quot;Lisa in HR is pregnant again&quot;)? I&#039;m the first to admit I have limited vision for these sorts of things, but like a lot of people my age, the volume and abruptness of the messages on twitter-type systems just puts me right off - so I&#039;d love to know how it gets over that hump (or whether I&#039;m just developing generational mind-plaque).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dennis &#8211; everyone will have an iPhone one day. OK, that&#039;s an exaggeration, but everyone I know with a BlackBerry provided by work who plays with my iPhone wants it immediately. Certainly, devices with a screen big enough to be genuinely useable as browsers will oust all the BlackBerry type devices within a couple of years.</p>
<p>Ironically, I saw the benefits of Twitter much more when I got a client for the iPhone &#8211; if I had lots of friends or colleagues using it, I can see now how it might enable me to stay in touch much better. But it really is a microtrend: if you&#039;re part of the 1% of the population that does it, it&#039;s brilliant; for everyone else, it&#039;s utterly mystifying.</p>
<p>I would be fascinated by enterprise twitter. How would it go beyond a system of notifications (&quot;I&#039;ve finished the paint job, vanishing can start at 15:45&quot;) or a short-format chat room (&quot;Lisa in HR is pregnant again&quot;)? I&#039;m the first to admit I have limited vision for these sorts of things, but like a lot of people my age, the volume and abruptness of the messages on twitter-type systems just puts me right off &#8211; so I&#039;d love to know how it gets over that hump (or whether I&#039;m just developing generational mind-plaque).</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/08/01/is-it-over-for-rss-readers/comment-page-1/#comment-5009</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard - I don&#039;t see it that way at all but I understand why some people will think it&#039;s hyperactive. There&#039;s a ton of utility in Twitter for ME. I discover a heck of a lot things that way. But then I am in a narrow group of people who are tech junkies.

That&#039;s why I&#039;m involved in a project to develop enterprise Twitter. Only tied to process and to auto-discovery.

What I DIDN&#039;T say is that RSS readers have lost their utility. I still use GReader but not as much as I used to.

@marzy/@Richard: How many people use iPhones? When&#039;s it going to penetrate business?

At the end of the day, we tend to go where the conversations are happening that are important to us. In that sense, I am definitely an edgling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard &#8211; I don&#039;t see it that way at all but I understand why some people will think it&#039;s hyperactive. There&#039;s a ton of utility in Twitter for ME. I discover a heck of a lot things that way. But then I am in a narrow group of people who are tech junkies.</p>
<p>That&#039;s why I&#039;m involved in a project to develop enterprise Twitter. Only tied to process and to auto-discovery.</p>
<p>What I DIDN&#039;T say is that RSS readers have lost their utility. I still use GReader but not as much as I used to.</p>
<p>@marzy/@Richard: How many people use iPhones? When&#039;s it going to penetrate business?</p>
<p>At the end of the day, we tend to go where the conversations are happening that are important to us. In that sense, I am definitely an edgling.</p>
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		<title>By: marzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>marzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I wasn&#039;t a fan of rss because once you start get a collection of feeds to gether takes ages to read it all but now I have my iPhone and using netnews wire with it sync service it is alot easier. The biggest reason rss is great for the iPhone is because its small because let&#039;s face it 3g isn&#039;t everywhere and rss is great over edge and then after going through my rss feeds on my iPhone I save the ones I wantro look at closer as unread and have a look on the computer or on wireless on my iphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I wasn&#039;t a fan of rss because once you start get a collection of feeds to gether takes ages to read it all but now I have my iPhone and using netnews wire with it sync service it is alot easier. The biggest reason rss is great for the iPhone is because its small because let&#039;s face it 3g isn&#039;t everywhere and rss is great over edge and then after going through my rss feeds on my iPhone I save the ones I wantro look at closer as unread and have a look on the computer or on wireless on my iphone.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add another vote for Krupo&#039;s line.

@Dennis - do you ever wonder whether there&#039;s a few of you who are becoming digital separatists? The twitter thing feels like a pretty exclusive clique - I can&#039;t see myself bothering unless a couple of dozen of my friends are also on there four or five times a day, which I doubt they ever will be. The news twitters (&quot;tweets&quot;?) are too frequent and too brief to be useful. And an RSS reader on an iPhone makes it convenient to keep up wherever I am in any case. Twitter just seems a bit... hyperactive.

(Having positioned myself as &quot;mainstream&quot; and Twitterers as dangerous extremists, I&#039;m forced to remind myself that 90 per cent of my friends have no idea what RSS is.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add another vote for Krupo&#039;s line.</p>
<p>@Dennis &#8211; do you ever wonder whether there&#039;s a few of you who are becoming digital separatists? The twitter thing feels like a pretty exclusive clique &#8211; I can&#039;t see myself bothering unless a couple of dozen of my friends are also on there four or five times a day, which I doubt they ever will be. The news twitters (&quot;tweets&quot;?) are too frequent and too brief to be useful. And an RSS reader on an iPhone makes it convenient to keep up wherever I am in any case. Twitter just seems a bit&#8230; hyperactive.</p>
<p>(Having positioned myself as &quot;mainstream&quot; and Twitterers as dangerous extremists, I&#039;m forced to remind myself that 90 per cent of my friends have no idea what RSS is.)</p>
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