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		<title>By: Xero&#8217;s new pricing is OK &#124; AccMan</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5224</link>
		<dc:creator>Xero&#8217;s new pricing is OK &#124; AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Xero: great traction but at what cost? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: To Partner or Not To Partner.... &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5223</link>
		<dc:creator>To Partner or Not To Partner.... &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on ACCMan, Dennis posted about the partnering strategies of SaaS vendors. His post was initiated by a new partnership [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Hallett</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5221</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hallett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben

I would agree with you whole heartedly that it will come down to look and feel and feature set and i&#039;m not going to comment on automatic bank feeds!!!

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben</p>
<p>I would agree with you whole heartedly that it will come down to look and feel and feature set and i&#039;m not going to comment on automatic bank feeds!!!</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hallett</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5219</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hallett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben,

The pool of forward thinking accountants is growing and the &quot;credible&quot; SaaS accounting companies as seen by practice accountants is not as large as we (Xero) thought.
We are concentrating on the small number of accounting firms who &quot;get&quot; the service and we are seeing excellent results. Those practices who are presently unsure about SaaS will be revisited when they see the light!!

I guess we are making two points here:

1. Forward thinking practices will present the best solution to thier clients. This maybe a SaaS solution or installed solution - but the client comes first.
2. SaaS accounting solution providers who understand accountants best will promote to the right practices and revisit those others when they are ready.

So as I posted above it&#039;s all about positioning!

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p>
<p>The pool of forward thinking accountants is growing and the &quot;credible&quot; SaaS accounting companies as seen by practice accountants is not as large as we (Xero) thought.<br />
We are concentrating on the small number of accounting firms who &quot;get&quot; the service and we are seeing excellent results. Those practices who are presently unsure about SaaS will be revisited when they see the light!!</p>
<p>I guess we are making two points here:</p>
<p>1. Forward thinking practices will present the best solution to thier clients. This maybe a SaaS solution or installed solution &#8211; but the client comes first.<br />
2. SaaS accounting solution providers who understand accountants best will promote to the right practices and revisit those others when they are ready.</p>
<p>So as I posted above it&#039;s all about positioning!</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kepes</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5222</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Kepes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

I wouldn&#039;t have expected you to ;-)

Cheers for the dialogue - talk to you soon

b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t have expected you to <img src='http://www.accmanpro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers for the dialogue &#8211; talk to you soon</p>
<p>b</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kepes</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Kepes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

I guess my contention is that the pool of forward thinking accountants is sufficiently small, and the number of SaaS accounting products too large, for a go-to-market strategy involving accountant partnerships to be overly successful.

Very happy to be proven wrong though!

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>I guess my contention is that the pool of forward thinking accountants is sufficiently small, and the number of SaaS accounting products too large, for a go-to-market strategy involving accountant partnerships to be overly successful.</p>
<p>Very happy to be proven wrong though!</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kepes</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5220</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Kepes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

Interesting and a valid strategy I&#039;m sure. It&#039;s just that reading the marketing spin from the UK facing SaaS accounting vendors, they all claim a huge level of credibility within accounting practices: e-conomic founded by a CA, Xero respected and endorsed by ACAEW, FAC with a (very small) holdingby Dennis and traction with the CAs.

So the pool is small as we both agree but I&#039;d contend that there are a few sharks circling that little school of fish!

So it comes down to look and feel and killer features - automatic bank feeds anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>Interesting and a valid strategy I&#8217;m sure. It&#8217;s just that reading the marketing spin from the UK facing SaaS accounting vendors, they all claim a huge level of credibility within accounting practices: e-conomic founded by a CA, Xero respected and endorsed by ACAEW, FAC with a (very small) holdingby Dennis and traction with the CAs.</p>
<p>So the pool is small as we both agree but I&#8217;d contend that there are a few sharks circling that little school of fish!</p>
<p>So it comes down to look and feel and killer features &#8211; automatic bank feeds anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hallett</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hallett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that we (Xero) are seeing is that forward thinking accountants are positioning the change as an upgrade of service as well as an upgrade of software.

Of course the tide of change is not quick, but by positioning to the clients that they (the accountant) are able to deliver a better service the accountant is not losing credability.

It&#039;s all about positioning and not all do it well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that we (Xero) are seeing is that forward thinking accountants are positioning the change as an upgrade of service as well as an upgrade of software.</p>
<p>Of course the tide of change is not quick, but by positioning to the clients that they (the accountant) are able to deliver a better service the accountant is not losing credability.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about positioning and not all do it well!</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Coltman</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5215</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Coltman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - because presumably the accountant persuaded the client to use Sage in the first place.

(S)he then has to say &quot;no, actually we think Winweb / Xero / FreeAgent / whatever it may be is better&quot;, thereby contradicting his/her own recommendation.

Would most clients see this as being innovative - or as a loss of credibility?

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; because presumably the accountant persuaded the client to use Sage in the first place.</p>
<p>(S)he then has to say &quot;no, actually we think Winweb / Xero / FreeAgent / whatever it may be is better&quot;, thereby contradicting his/her own recommendation.</p>
<p>Would most clients see this as being innovative &#8211; or as a loss of credibility?</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2008/10/28/xero-great-traction-but-at-what-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-5216</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things change and the professional who recognizes that and can communicate the value will be seen as pro-active, honest and more trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things change and the professional who recognizes that and can communicate the value will be seen as pro-active, honest and more trusted.</p>
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