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Sage trying to slap down KashFlow

by Dennis Howlett on January 13, 2009

Little ‘ol KashFlow must really be getting up Sage’s nose. On the UK Business Forum, Duane Jackson, KashFlow’s boss says:

The lovely chaps at Sage have reported KashFlow to trading standards saying our pricing comparison page “is likely to cause a detriment to Sage (UK) Limited by inducing potential customers to purchase alternative software solutions on the basis of erroneous and misleading information”

What’s the “erroneous and misleading information”? I hear you ask

Apparently they think TAS Books 3 isn’t a product we should compare KashFlow to, despite a number of our customers saying that was one of the products they considered before buying KashFlow.

They’d been in touch and politely asked for a numebr of other changes, which I thought were reasonable enough – so we made them. But I decided to stand my ground when it came to comparing to TAS Books 3 as it’s obviously comparable if our customers have said it was one of the options they’d considered.

I’m not qualified to pass comment on the veracity or otherwise of Sage’s claim as these things are often much more complicated than the parties imagine. Even so, it strikes me as odd that a £1 billion plus company should be going after a minnow like KashFlow. I’m aware the whole software as a service market has caught Sage by surprise.

Despite a number of attempts, it has only recently gone into public beta with SageLive. It must be irking Sage that new entrants are quietly mopping up bits of their turf they thought were rock solid territory.

My sense is that while it is clearly trying, Sage remains behind the curve in understanding the nature of online systems. Competitors like KashFlow don’t have a legacy to think about and can concentrate their efforts on putting the ’service’ into saas.

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  • sage will always be better than kashflow, kashflow was designed by a person who cant make the application look good.
  • interested
    Awww, someone is jealous.
    Dont you know you should not judge a book by its cover?
  • I'm not sure they'll get far with trading standards... it's not there for this sort of dispute.

    However, for Duane to say that he's comparing Kashflow to TAS just because clients say they considered both is fatuous. We have clients who say 'we looked at Sage, CODA and SAP. I wouldn't draw a conclusion that those three are therefore exactly analagous products...
  • It's not for me to say how people conduct their turf wars. I'm sure all would agree that software sales (in whatever guise) can be a pretty grubby business. As an aside that's one reason I'm 100% certain that Oracle and SAP won't end up in court over TomorrowNow. Way too many skeletons in the cupboards.
  • Trading Standards?....now is that the same bureaucracy that slapped the hand of Interprise for their great ad campaign "Sick of Sage"?

    It must be a subdepartment of the Ministry of Silly Walks.
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