Comments on: Sage trying to slap down KashFlow http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:01:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rex Range http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5543 Rex Range Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:53:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5543 Right after Sage’s largest partner MIS Group closed its doors http://www.blytheco.com/MIS/, Sage’s agile, market-driven competitors began wooing its customers away, and it wasn’t difficult. If anyone on the planet is still relying on any Sage product to run a business, then you may also be interested in using the worst business productivity solution, Lotus Notes, and I’m sure we can scare up a Ford Edsel for you to drive. Sage is a strong contender for most poorly managed company on the face of the earth, a typical old-line, stodgy plodder vastly more concerned with internal Sage politics than with any notions of what customers and markets might want. Anyone at Sage worth hiring left long ago, and if you are a Sage customer, what you get at every level reflects that bottom-of-the-barrel, lowest-common-denominator reality. It takes a lot for me to recommend anyone flee into the arms of Microsoft, but Sage makes the Redmond, WA, death star look like Disney World by comparison. Don’t take my word for it. Listen to just a few of the legions of miserable Sage users around the globe who have posted here http://rafaelwolf.com/?p=320, including John Voltz: MAS90 is is a horror show I’ve been watching for about six years. Those of you who have not seen network or CPU usage problems, take a look at the size of your data files. As they grow over time, report back on your experiences… Sage support? Terrible. Overpriced? YES. Why have they not converted the system to work with a SQL server? God only knows. We have a guy with anger issues who actually bangs his mouse on the desk while he’s waiting for MAS90 to complete an operation. He says he wastes at least two hours a day waiting on MAS90 to complete tasks. We have a 15-seat license with more than 30 machines on the network. The current server is a 3 GHz quad core Phenom with a 1TB SATA RAID. It’s a 100 base network, nobody had the foresight to have this building cabled for gigabit when it was built, so here we are. Right after Sage’s largest partner MIS Group closed its doors http://www.blytheco.com/MIS/, Sage’s agile, market-driven competitors began wooing its customers away, and it wasn’t difficult. If anyone on the planet is still relying on any Sage product to run a business, then you may also be interested in using the worst business productivity solution, Lotus Notes, and I’m sure we can scare up a Ford Edsel for you to drive. Sage is a strong contender for most poorly managed company on the face of the earth, a typical old-line, stodgy plodder vastly more concerned with internal Sage politics than with any notions of what customers and markets might want. Anyone at Sage worth hiring left long ago, and if you are a Sage customer, what you get at every level reflects that bottom-of-the-barrel, lowest-common-denominator reality. It takes a lot for me to recommend anyone flee into the arms of Microsoft, but Sage makes the Redmond, WA, death star look like Disney World by comparison.

Don’t take my word for it. Listen to just a few of the legions of miserable Sage users around the globe who have posted here http://rafaelwolf.com/?p=320, including John Voltz:

MAS90 is is a horror show I’ve been watching for about six years. Those of you who have not seen network or CPU usage problems, take a look at the size of your data files. As they grow over time, report back on your experiences…

Sage support? Terrible. Overpriced? YES. Why have they not converted the system to work with a SQL server? God only knows.

We have a guy with anger issues who actually bangs his mouse on the desk while he’s waiting for MAS90 to complete an operation. He says he wastes at least two hours a day waiting on MAS90 to complete tasks. We have a 15-seat license with more than 30 machines on the network. The current server is a 3 GHz quad core Phenom with a 1TB SATA RAID. It’s a 100 base network, nobody had the foresight to have this building cabled for gigabit when it was built, so here we are.

]]> By: Rex Range http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-10555 Rex Range Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:53:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-10555 Right after Sage’s largest partner MIS Group closed its doors http://www.blytheco.com/MIS/, Sage’s agile, market-driven competitors began wooing its customers away, and it wasn’t difficult. If anyone on the planet is still relying on any Sage product to run a business, then you may also be interested in using the worst business productivity solution, Lotus Notes, and I’m sure we can scare up a Ford Edsel for you to drive. Sage is a strong contender for most poorly managed company on the face of the earth, a typical old-line, stodgy plodder vastly more concerned with internal Sage politics than with any notions of what customers and markets might want. Anyone at Sage worth hiring left long ago, and if you are a Sage customer, what you get at every level reflects that bottom-of-the-barrel, lowest-common-denominator reality. It takes a lot for me to recommend anyone flee into the arms of Microsoft, but Sage makes the Redmond, WA, death star look like Disney World by comparison. Don’t take my word for it. Listen to just a few of the legions of miserable Sage users around the globe who have posted here http://rafaelwolf.com/?p=320, including John Voltz: MAS90 is is a horror show I’ve been watching for about six years. Those of you who have not seen network or CPU usage problems, take a look at the size of your data files. As they grow over time, report back on your experiences… Sage support? Terrible. Overpriced? YES. Why have they not converted the system to work with a SQL server? God only knows. We have a guy with anger issues who actually bangs his mouse on the desk while he’s waiting for MAS90 to complete an operation. He says he wastes at least two hours a day waiting on MAS90 to complete tasks. We have a 15-seat license with more than 30 machines on the network. The current server is a 3 GHz quad core Phenom with a 1TB SATA RAID. It’s a 100 base network, nobody had the foresight to have this building cabled for gigabit when it was built, so here we are. Right after Sage’s largest partner MIS Group closed its doors http://www.blytheco.com/MIS/, Sage’s agile, market-driven competitors began wooing its customers away, and it wasn’t difficult. If anyone on the planet is still relying on any Sage product to run a business, then you may also be interested in using the worst business productivity solution, Lotus Notes, and I’m sure we can scare up a Ford Edsel for you to drive. Sage is a strong contender for most poorly managed company on the face of the earth, a typical old-line, stodgy plodder vastly more concerned with internal Sage politics than with any notions of what customers and markets might want. Anyone at Sage worth hiring left long ago, and if you are a Sage customer, what you get at every level reflects that bottom-of-the-barrel, lowest-common-denominator reality. It takes a lot for me to recommend anyone flee into the arms of Microsoft, but Sage makes the Redmond, WA, death star look like Disney World by comparison.

Don’t take my word for it. Listen to just a few of the legions of miserable Sage users around the globe who have posted here http://rafaelwolf.com/?p=320, including John Voltz:

MAS90 is is a horror show I’ve been watching for about six years. Those of you who have not seen network or CPU usage problems, take a look at the size of your data files. As they grow over time, report back on your experiences…

Sage support? Terrible. Overpriced? YES. Why have they not converted the system to work with a SQL server? God only knows.

We have a guy with anger issues who actually bangs his mouse on the desk while he’s waiting for MAS90 to complete an operation. He says he wastes at least two hours a day waiting on MAS90 to complete tasks. We have a 15-seat license with more than 30 machines on the network. The current server is a 3 GHz quad core Phenom with a 1TB SATA RAID. It’s a 100 base network, nobody had the foresight to have this building cabled for gigabit when it was built, so here we are.

]]> By: interested http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5542 interested Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:37:09 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5542 Awww, someone is jealous. Dont you know you should not judge a book by its cover? Awww, someone is jealous.
Dont you know you should not judge a book by its cover?

]]> By: Kashflow Sucks http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5541 Kashflow Sucks Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:33:26 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5541 sage will always be better than kashflow, kashflow was designed by a person who cant make the application look good. sage will always be better than kashflow, kashflow was designed by a person who cant make the application look good.

]]> By: David and Goliath 2.0 | CloudAve http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5540 David and Goliath 2.0 | CloudAve Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:17:18 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5540 [...] Now I don’t know and frankly don’t care if TAS is a comparable product to KashFlow but as the inimitable Dennis Howlett writes; [...] [...] Now I don’t know and frankly don’t care if TAS is a comparable product to KashFlow but as the inimitable Dennis Howlett writes; [...]

]]> By: Tweet, tweet http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5539 Tweet, tweet Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:49:55 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5539 [...] Sage had complained about us to Trading Standards. He asked for more info which then resulted in this piece on his blog. Great [...] [...] Sage had complained about us to Trading Standards. He asked for more info which then resulted in this piece on his blog. Great [...]

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5537 Dennis Howlett Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:49:17 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5537 It's not for me to say how people conduct their turf wars. I'm sure all would agree that software sales (in whatever guise) can be a pretty grubby business. As an aside that's one reason I'm 100% certain that Oracle and SAP won't end up in court over TomorrowNow. Way too many skeletons in the cupboards. It's not for me to say how people conduct their turf wars. I'm sure all would agree that software sales (in whatever guise) can be a pretty grubby business. As an aside that's one reason I'm 100% certain that Oracle and SAP won't end up in court over TomorrowNow. Way too many skeletons in the cupboards.

]]> By: Sage Prove They’re Both Worried and Clueless http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5538 Sage Prove They’re Both Worried and Clueless Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:12:19 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5538 [...] thread on UKBF is not the kind of thing I’d want to see if I was in charge of PR at Sage. AccManPro, the best read UK SaaS accounting blog, has also picked up on [...] [...] thread on UKBF is not the kind of thing I’d want to see if I was in charge of PR at Sage. AccManPro, the best read UK SaaS accounting blog, has also picked up on [...]

]]> By: David Turner http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5536 David Turner Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:16:27 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5536 I'm not sure they'll get far with trading standards... it's not there for this sort of dispute. However, for Duane to say that he's comparing Kashflow to TAS just because clients say they considered both is fatuous. We have clients who say 'we looked at Sage, CODA and SAP. I wouldn't draw a conclusion that those three are therefore exactly analagous products... I’m not sure they’ll get far with trading standards… it’s not there for this sort of dispute.

However, for Duane to say that he’s comparing Kashflow to TAS just because clients say they considered both is fatuous. We have clients who say ‘we looked at Sage, CODA and SAP. I wouldn’t draw a conclusion that those three are therefore exactly analagous products…

]]> By: Jason C http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/01/13/sage-trying-to-slap-down-kashflow/comment-page-1/#comment-5535 Jason C Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:55:43 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=3842#comment-5535 Trading Standards?....now is that the same bureaucracy that slapped the hand of Interprise for their great ad campaign "Sick of Sage"? It must be a subdepartment of the Ministry of Silly Walks. Trading Standards?….now is that the same bureaucracy that slapped the hand of Interprise for their great ad campaign “Sick of Sage”?

It must be a subdepartment of the Ministry of Silly Walks.

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