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by Dennis Howlett on March 6, 2009

I’ve frequently opined that the greasy pole of management progression would beat out the radical thinking of Gen Y’ers. Seems I was wrong. According to AccountancyAge, we have a new breed of entitlement employees who job hop and are unwilling to volunteer:

Generation Y also have little job loyalty, often being prepared to move on every year or so, with Reed in part blaming this ‘have it all’ approach on the fact they are the first generation to come into work saddled with heavy student debt.

‘There can be a sense of “I am better than that” or, somehow, what you asking is beneath them. They have a degree or loads of A* A-levels and you are asking them to do some photocopying. They don’t volunteer, or the ones that do really stand out,’ complains one senior accountant…

…Karen Young, business director for Hays Senior Finance, concedes this clash of expectations can be cause problems. ‘Often the managers or partners will have worked really hard to get to the top and these guys seem just to want a fast track,’ she says. ‘Often they do not fully realise the value of core work experience on their CV and, on top of this, have a very strong concept of work-life balance.’

If true then this is a dangerous trend. In marketing, it is said that your half-life in a management position is around two years. That seems to be about right given what I’ve seen over the years among peers who are in those roles. But that only comes after spending years in the trenches learning their craft. But perhaps there’s another side to this.

In a case study from Menzies in the same article, the interviewee is quoted as saying:

‘I completely disagree with the idea that Generation Y want too much. But what we do want is mentoring, training and recognition when we have done something well. If you put in extra effort you do want some feedback to help you know that are going in the right direction. If you don’t know what you are doing well or badly you can never improve.

So what are we missing? This is something I’ve discussed with Francine McKenna in attempting to understand why so many of what I thought were the basics of auditing have gone so awry.

I remember when I was training that for whatever reason, I could not get my head around contra eliminations. OK – so I was juggling hand written spreadsheets with upwards of 25 companies and multiple currencies but even so, it was one of those ‘mental block’ things that drove me nuts for about three months.

I was fortunate that I had an open door to my grey haired mentor who day after day patiently worked through the examples, never once losing his temper or consigning me to menial tasks. I wonder whether such people still exist?

It turns out the senior partners and staff in large firms are so busy running around to meetings, making sales and keeping clients happy that there is little time devoted to skills transference. That leaves less senior (and by definition less experienced/skilled) staff to pass on their knowledge to the next generation. Worse still, supervision that would act as back stops for errors or omissions are eroding. Is it therefore surprising when young hopefuls simply shrug, pack up their bags and move on to the next opportunity? Given the extent to which Gen Y’ers are job hopping, has this change at senior level become endemic?

That may have been the position until most recently. I suspect the recession, a contraction in job opportunities, coming regulation and the continuing litany of failure will serve to reset and redress the balance. Or at least I hope so.

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  • Finally finished getting around to reading the article - I'll compliment it on having a bit of novel insight: "with Reed in part blaming this ‘have it all’ approach on the fact they are the first generation to come into work saddled with heavy student debt." Right on - I always thought it peculiar that one generation got to go to work with little/no debt, current generation, hammered, and that this would end up with some resentment.

    Three things that popped into mind before even reading their full article though:
    First, accmanpro.com is one of two places where I hear people bemoaning the fact that there's too many people slogging through the job without learning the meaning of what they're doing. The other place is my office. The people saying this are the partners and senior managers who are teaching me things - and who worry about people who don't take the time to do this.

    So in other words, I'm incredibly grateful for the first rate education I'm getting as I do my job.

    Second, it's not the first time I've responded to an article like this:
    http://www.krupo.ca/archive/2008/11/01/idiot-ma...

    Finally, I know I'm going to have trouble taking an article on generational conflict seriously when they don't know that GenX *is* part of the baby boom generation. It's the tail end that screwed by the initial bulge. Fortunately that didn't really impact the article, but not knowing the terms you're using is still a good way to hammer at your credibility in ways you don't want to.
  • I agree with what Ray Jone said about loyalty being a two way street. However, be that as it may, I work in a small practice in Dublin and we've recently recruited 3 new grads. My observation is that Gen Y in our office just don't seem to know better. They became adults in a time of unprecedented economic prosperity and all they know is that things are just supposed to be handed to them.
  • This doesn't surprise me because I've seen it in action. But you have to wonder if that kind of attitude will turn around considering the recession and how competitive things will be for recent graduates and even those who are newly employed. Those who lose their jobs aren't going to be able to act entitled when they finally land a new one. I think these types of attitudes are just signs of the times and everything balances out. New grads had it easy for a while there, but the world has changed.
  • Ray Jones
    Loyalty is a two-way street. When companies routinely close factories in the US because they can make more money elsewhere, or fail to train people here because they can hire cheaper labor from overseas, it's readily apparent to employees that they are expendable contractors, not valued long-term employees. I don't see this as an excuse for doing poor work or refusing to do 'menial' jobs, but I also wouldn't expect to see a lot of loyalty from employees to companies who aren't extending any.
  • I'm not sure if I'm Generation Y. At 31 I suspect I'm a bit too old :-)

    But I certainly don't agree with anyone, of whatever age and whatever rank in the organisation, thinking they're too grand to do filing and photocopying. Especially people who are new to an organisation. Filing's often a great way to learn your way round how an office handles things.

    And when I was working in a practice, the senior partner used to take his turn to make cups of tea and do the washing up.

    Until we convinced him to buy a dishwasher :-)

    M
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