Keytime Books – colossal fail

by admin on April 3, 2009

in Cloud Computing/SaaS,General

The saas/on-demand model is very different to the traditional model of software sale. In the on-demand world, potential customers expect to gain fast access to the application, give it a spin and then decide if they’re going to continue. Not with Keytime Books.

The vendor asks you to complete a form including your phone number, practice name and how you got to the site. This it describes as a registration process but nowhere does it ask you for a username and password combination. The net result is when you click through from the form…you get this:

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This is ridiculous. The only data I gave them was my email address so we’ll see if the company chooses to contact me. The rationale offered by the company is:

The way Keytime Books for accountants works is as simple as the system itself.

  • You register for the service
  • Our team creates a unique version of the system for you
  • This is branded up in your choice of colours and includes your logo
  • The system is held on a website that your clients access directly
  • Your clients login to “your” online accounting system

What does it cost :

Keytime Books is priced very simply and competitively.

Initial set-up is only £370 + VAT and this includes :

  • Fully branded site with your logo and colours
  • Unique login created for you to use
  • Up to 5 client licences for one year
  • Additional client licences available at £80 + VAT per client

Annually after that, the costs are as follows :

  • Annual renewal £370 + VAT, up to 5 clients
  • Additional licence fee £80 + VAT per client

The idea is novel and I suppose there is some justification for initial set-up but the de-minimus of five users is a no-no. It puts the onus for onboarding directly with the practioner without there being any obvious support for that process. I have received a number of calls about this issue in the last week and it is clear that professionals are very nervous about apppearing to act as sales agents for software vendors.

I counter by arguing that while selling doesn’t come naturally to professionals, explaining benefits does. That’s what needs to happen. If professionals do it correctly then to use a line from the film Heat: ‘This shit sells itself.’ But given we’re in a new market, I would have thought Keytime could have come up with something a lot more credible. This is not it.

I have other questions as well. For instance, what does: “Our team creates a unique version of the system for you” mean? Is it a multi-tenant approach, widely regarded as the most efficient way of operating a saas service or multi-instance. If the latter then Keytime is letting itself in for a ton of pain.

And what are you getting for your money? Well, there’s a description of the service for individuals and accountants. There are no screenshots or videos on offer so I have no idea whether the claims are accurate or otherwise.

Individuals are charged at the rate of £35 per year or £45 per client for the premium version. In reality, the standard version is of little value because it does not have VAT or full invoicing capability. The VAT thing might be OK for the many businesses that are under the VAT registratoin threshold but billing is something that needs to be fully fledged because that’s one of the business’s key market presentation media.

Professionals on the other hand pay a premium of £45-35 (depending on your point of view) for what appears to be a client management dashboard and a messaging system. I read that as meaning the professional is effectively paying for an extra user license for every client but with a few bolt on goodies. That doesn’t make sense. First, if you’ve got (say) 100 clients then you’re in for £8,000. That’s one hell of a price to pay. Second, while there could easily be a premium for a dashboard, I don’t get it for messaging. Social features of this kind should be near free. the competition from email, AOL, Skype, MSM, Twitter and other messaging systems is just too great.

Second, there is a reseller option where Keytime will white label for the reseller and offer an undisclosed fee for each sale. Isn’t that more or less the same as the practitioner offering but by another name? Or if not then is the differential sufficient to warrant a different pricing model? I don’t see it.

I would hope that beneath the covers, Keytime has made a serious effort to put something useful into play in what is becoming a busy market. Unfortunately, its go-to-market for the practitioner needs a major rethink.

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Hello Dennis,

You’ve made a couple of valid points, but to bill Books as a colossal fail is misinformation. In fact, you’ve done what you’ve previously accused others of http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/03/03/saas-marketin...

You know as well as we do that just because we are selling SaaS we should not forget that all marketing is done on the same principles.

Of course, you are right that people do want instant gratification, especially on the web. But this always has to be backed up by decent customer care, personal selling etc. (which is why it's set up how it is.)

Having said that, we agree that there should be an option for a "quick look around" - during business hours, we turn around requests for a trial more or less immediately and your trial site was set up first thing this morning. We have spoken here about this on a few occasions, and there should be a better way for the accountant to get a feel for the system that does not rely upon us being in the office - and this is coming.

Because of this you have not taken a look through the accountant's system. Had you waited for the response from us, you would have got to see the functionality that the accountant gets, which sets it apart from the individual and reseller version.

You make the point that the added value of the system for the accountant does not really warrant the extra cost. The way you have represented it makes this seem a statement of fact – it’s not. You have not considered the additional features which include…

Messaging which you identified and keeps all of their communications in one place - comparing it to twitter, skype etc is not a fair one. Why would it compete with those services? They are simply too disparate to be workable in an efficient practice. By all means use them, but this is different. It has specific topics and can be marked “dealt with” etc. Furthermore, it's easy to use as a newsletter delivery medium. By the way this facility is not charged for separately.

Shared access to the data – the accountants and the client can access the same data from their respective locations which makes maintenance, month end, year end etc processing simpler and less time consuming

Accountant controls the functionality the client has access to – this ensures that clients only see what they need and keeps familiarisation time and data maintenance down to a minimum

Branding – appears as the accountants own service

Integration with Keytime’s Accountants’ Suite of compliance software

Moving on to the idea of selling - the accountant is not selling on behalf of anyone. He's offering an additional service, and this is benefiting both the practice and the client. If the accountant chooses to charge for it, then that's up to the accountant – how much are his/her clients paying for other bookkeeping software presently (even Excel has a cost) which they could reasonably dispense with once they start using Books?

How many hours of time can be saved by the accountants and her/his staff not having to key in data from thousands of receipts and invoices now that even the smallest client business is entering it on line?

You ask if the system is multi-tenant or multi-instance – it’s the former, not that it makes any difference to the end user.

I cannot agree with you about the VAT and invoicing facilities. The vast majority of self employed are not VAT-registered. And anecdotal evidence suggests that most people don't bother with invoices. Of course, a lot of forward thinking businesses use invoicing as "one of the business’s [sic] key market presentation media". I question whether most businesses know what that means, let alone put it into practice.

Lastly, on the thorny subject of price – have you compared them to the competition? We have and we believe the pricing is more than competitive (Kashflow would charge £8800 for the same) and we are always happy to discuss discounts for multiple licences.

The trouble with written instructions / descriptions is that they can so easily be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

If there are screenshots, or better still videos, then it makes it so much easier for the potential customer to look and make his/her own judgement.

But, as a screencaster, I would say that wouldn't I :-)

M

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