Comments on: New threads at AccountingWeb but several steps back http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:01:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6463 David Terrar Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:53:30 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6463 I've just spotted another issue with the AccountinWEB revamp and the registration thing. If you look back at comments on old articles, the names of commenters appear to be lost unless they are/were signed in as a member. I happened to be looking at the opinion piece you and I wrote for them on SaaS 2 years ago... apart from me, the identities of all the other commenters (you, Alistair, couple of Davids) has been lost <a href="http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/item/165822" rel="nofollow">http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/item/165822</a> It's all hampering the converstion in a big way. I've just spotted another issue with the AccountinWEB revamp and the registration thing. If you look back at comments on old articles, the names of commenters appear to be lost unless they are/were signed in as a member. I happened to be looking at the opinion piece you and I wrote for them on SaaS 2 years ago… apart from me, the identities of all the other commenters (you, Alistair, couple of Davids) has been lost
http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/item/165822

It's all hampering the converstion in a big way.

]]> By: Duane Jackson http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6462 Duane Jackson Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:38:39 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6462 The thinking behind forcing registration is simple. They want more detailed data about who reads the site as having more info than just the number of eyes makes it more attractice to advertisers. I appreciate the logic behind that way of thinking, but I agree with you that it's a mistake. I suspect that within a few months it might revert back if the numbers of people that register aren't as high as they hoped. The thinking behind forcing registration is simple. They want more detailed data about who reads the site as having more info than just the number of eyes makes it more attractice to advertisers.

I appreciate the logic behind that way of thinking, but I agree with you that it's a mistake.

I suspect that within a few months it might revert back if the numbers of people that register aren't as high as they hoped.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6461 Dennis Howlett Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:27:55 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6461 I can't see any independent blogger falling for that one. They want to create content as a driver for page views and ergo more metrics to feed the advertisers. I can't see any independent blogger falling for that one. They want to create content as a driver for page views and ergo more metrics to feed the advertisers.

]]> By: Emily Coltman http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6460 Emily Coltman Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:07:37 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6460 Oh, snozzcumbers! Are they doing that because they want to get us bloggers to post on their site and not on our own sites? I can't think of any other reason! M Oh, snozzcumbers!

Are they doing that because they want to get us bloggers to post on their site and not on our own sites? I can't think of any other reason!

M

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6459 Dennis Howlett Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:04:23 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6459 I didn't spot that - so I've breached their rules already? So much for conversation eh? I didn't spot that – so I've breached their rules already? So much for conversation eh?

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6458 David Terrar Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:52:40 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6458 I was intrgued by your comment about their copyright policy. Like you I haven't found it yet, but one point in their terms and conditions I find very surprizing: "You may not create a link to this website from another website or document without AccountingWEB.co.uk's prior written consent." That's good for SEO and PR......! I was intrgued by your comment about their copyright policy. Like you I haven't found it yet, but one point in their terms and conditions I find very surprizing:

"You may not create a link to this website from another website or document without AccountingWEB.co.uk's prior written consent."

That's good for SEO and PR……!

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6457 David Terrar Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:12:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6457 I haven't had a proper chance to look around yet, but I agree that the new style is an improvement. I also agree that forcing registration to read the content is a MASSIVE step backwards. They do appar to be listening to feedback though, as I see this comment about anonymous comments being looked at: <a href="http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/topic/making-posts-anonymous-accountingwebcouk" rel="nofollow">http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/topic/making-posts...</a> I definitely agree with your sentiments over Drupal, although I'm going to revisit and get some other opinions following Martyn's feedback. I haven't had a proper chance to look around yet, but I agree that the new style is an improvement. I also agree that forcing registration to read the content is a MASSIVE step backwards. They do appar to be listening to feedback though, as I see this comment about anonymous comments being looked at: http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/topic/making-posts…

I definitely agree with your sentiments over Drupal, although I'm going to revisit and get some other opinions following Martyn's feedback.

]]> By: Dennis Howlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6456 Dennis Howlett Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:04:49 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6456 Steve - I don't mind revisiting stuff and maybe that's something I should do. Even so - what put me off time and again was the default answer to almost any question was either: 'Go learn it' or 'Go find it for yourself.' When open source communities work they can be great but when they don't, they're horrible. Drupal is at that 'not good' end of the spectrum for me. I was fortunate to find a few helpful souls from other sources but even they admitted that v.5 was a pig and the community sucked. Memories like that don't fade so easily. And yes - I can write HTML/CSS/PHP/JS reasonably well. Steve – I don't mind revisiting stuff and maybe that's something I should do. Even so – what put me off time and again was the default answer to almost any question was either: 'Go learn it' or 'Go find it for yourself.' When open source communities work they can be great but when they don't, they're horrible. Drupal is at that 'not good' end of the spectrum for me. I was fortunate to find a few helpful souls from other sources but even they admitted that v.5 was a pig and the community sucked. Memories like that don't fade so easily. And yes – I can write HTML/CSS/PHP/JS reasonably well.

]]> By: Steve http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6455 Steve Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:50:29 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6455 Doug, I think that you need to check out Drupal again; it has changed massively since D6 came out and is light years ahead of D5 in terms of usability and flexibility. Yes, there is always a balance between flexibility and complexity, but D6 is great in terms of allowing the user (or developer) to determine how far to either side they want to go. It certainly is not tough or a nightmare, as long as you have a modicum of technology related skills. Absolutely no need to delve into any coding at all, unless you *really* want to create custom modules. It hasnt been voted as the best CMS for nothing <a href="http://drupal.org/Drupal-Wins-Best-Overall-2008-Open-Source-CMS-Award-Packt" rel="nofollow">http://drupal.org/Drupal-Wins-Best-Overall-2008-O...</a> I do find your comments about the community slightly strange...perhaps not as engaging I would have liked, but certainly never hostile. Doug,
I think that you need to check out Drupal again; it has changed massively since D6 came out and is light years ahead of D5 in terms of usability and flexibility. Yes, there is always a balance between flexibility and complexity, but D6 is great in terms of allowing the user (or developer) to determine how far to either side they want to go. It certainly is not tough or a nightmare, as long as you have a modicum of technology related skills. Absolutely no need to delve into any coding at all, unless you *really* want to create custom modules.

It hasnt been voted as the best CMS for nothing http://drupal.org/Drupal-Wins-Best-Overall-2008-O…

I do find your comments about the community slightly strange…perhaps not as engaging I would have liked, but certainly never hostile.

]]> By: Martyn http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/06/24/new-threads-at-accountingweb-but-several-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-6454 Martyn Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:37:58 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=4983#comment-6454 Yes - I remember when Ben, Andrew and David started out - AW seemed really radical and cutting edge. I loved 'The Prudent Surfer'. Is it really 12 years? Yes – I remember when Ben, Andrew and David started out – AW seemed really radical and cutting edge. I loved 'The Prudent Surfer'.

Is it really 12 years?

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