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	<title>Comments on: Sage&#039;s latest saas attempts: a further analysis</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Topping</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/09/21/sages-latest-saas-attempts-a-further-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-6945</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Topping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting article. I was at Sage for eight years in the 80s and 90s, from before they became a plc through to having perhaps a dozen acquisitions. I loved it; when I started there were less than 50 employees and just four programmers in R&amp;D. By the time I left it employed about 6,000 people. It&#8217;s impossible for an organisation like that to be nimble and reactive, there are too many layers and the vision and ideas don&#8217;t flow. That&#8217;s not a criticism of Sage&#8217;s success just a fact of business life. I think Sage funding a startup to develop the next generation of products nurtured and protected &#8211; yet distinct from the corporate monster is a very compelling approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting article. I was at Sage for eight years in the 80s and 90s, from before they became a plc through to having perhaps a dozen acquisitions. I loved it; when I started there were less than 50 employees and just four programmers in R&amp;D. By the time I left it employed about 6,000 people. It&rsquo;s impossible for an organisation like that to be nimble and reactive, there are too many layers and the vision and ideas don&rsquo;t flow. That&rsquo;s not a criticism of Sage&rsquo;s success just a fact of business life. I think Sage funding a startup to develop the next generation of products nurtured and protected &ndash; yet distinct from the corporate monster is a very compelling approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/09/21/sages-latest-saas-attempts-a-further-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-6944</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a strategy for Sage when it comes to Saas that fits with their historical growth strategy is to let the development happen with these start-ups and acquire one, two, ten of them.  Sage has grown by leaps and bounds by acquiring software companies in the past and that&#039;s probably the best way going forward.

Think about it.  A start up doesn&#039;t have the internal resistance, political or otherwise, there&#039;s no bureaucracy, no entrenched assumptions, and not a surplus of money to chuck down a seemingly bottomless pit when there&#039;s no clear vision or sense of urgency.

Sage can sit back and evaluate the comers, then swoop in and buy out the guys who show the best promise of a good fit, then incorporate the thing into their existing lines.

One man&#039;s opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a strategy for Sage when it comes to Saas that fits with their historical growth strategy is to let the development happen with these start-ups and acquire one, two, ten of them.  Sage has grown by leaps and bounds by acquiring software companies in the past and that&#039;s probably the best way going forward.</p>
<p>Think about it.  A start up doesn&#039;t have the internal resistance, political or otherwise, there&#039;s no bureaucracy, no entrenched assumptions, and not a surplus of money to chuck down a seemingly bottomless pit when there&#039;s no clear vision or sense of urgency.</p>
<p>Sage can sit back and evaluate the comers, then swoop in and buy out the guys who show the best promise of a good fit, then incorporate the thing into their existing lines.</p>
<p>One man&#039;s opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kind</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/09/21/sages-latest-saas-attempts-a-further-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-6943</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Kind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Stobart is right to a degree. Many SMEs when it comes to their accounting data still like to retain visibilty and control of it. I work with many SMEs (and Line 50) and there is still a perceived issue of loss of data, which even though it is probably better taken of, with a hosted solution as opposed to a local one.

I contacted the Sage 50 product manager some time ago to show my Sage 50 web prototype I had created which keeps the look and feel of line 50 but delivers it in a web browser. This technology could be then used to sell it as *either* a SaaS or local installed solution, you can view it at &lt;a href=&quot;http://sage50web.domorewithsage.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sage50web.domorewithsage.com&lt;/a&gt;

Gary Kind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Stobart is right to a degree. Many SMEs when it comes to their accounting data still like to retain visibilty and control of it. I work with many SMEs (and Line 50) and there is still a perceived issue of loss of data, which even though it is probably better taken of, with a hosted solution as opposed to a local one.</p>
<p>I contacted the Sage 50 product manager some time ago to show my Sage 50 web prototype I had created which keeps the look and feel of line 50 but delivers it in a web browser. This technology could be then used to sell it as *either* a SaaS or local installed solution, you can view it at <a href="http://sage50web.domorewithsage.com" rel="nofollow">http://sage50web.domorewithsage.com</a></p>
<p>Gary Kind</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Coltman</title>
		<link>http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/09/21/sages-latest-saas-attempts-a-further-analysis/comment-page-1/#comment-6942</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Coltman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now why am I not surprised, after reading Jason&#039;s article, to find you have something to say about it too :-)

&quot;the newbies are mostly reaching a segment of the market that Sage cannot service very well&quot;

Couldn&#039;t agree more.  My clients are tiny businesses and they&#039;re so far really happy with FreeAgent.  They like how easy it is to use and they like sharing their info with me online.  If I tried to teach them to use even Sage Instant I think they&#039;d be throwing fits.

Micro business owners need something that&#039;s easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy to use, ultra-user-friendly and doesn&#039;t need them to understand double entry.  None of that is true of Sage.

Sage is a great product in its place but - and this is something many accountants don&#039;t comprehend - it&#039;s not the only product there is!

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now why am I not surprised, after reading Jason&#039;s article, to find you have something to say about it too <img src='http://www.accmanpro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&quot;the newbies are mostly reaching a segment of the market that Sage cannot service very well&quot;</p>
<p>Couldn&#039;t agree more.  My clients are tiny businesses and they&#039;re so far really happy with FreeAgent.  They like how easy it is to use and they like sharing their info with me online.  If I tried to teach them to use even Sage Instant I think they&#039;d be throwing fits.</p>
<p>Micro business owners need something that&#039;s easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy to use, ultra-user-friendly and doesn&#039;t need them to understand double entry.  None of that is true of Sage.</p>
<p>Sage is a great product in its place but &#8211; and this is something many accountants don&#039;t comprehend &#8211; it&#039;s not the only product there is!</p>
<p>M</p>
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