Travel discrimination

by admin on October 29, 2009

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Travel woes are a long time fave on this site and today is no exception.

This morning, Tom Raftery and I shared a ride from Vienna to Palma de Mallorca with Air Berlin aka FlyNiki.

We checked in at the same time, at adjacent check in desks and with the same kinds of baggage. Both of us had one rollalong and one backpack. I was asked about checking baggage as was Tom. I showed what I had as did Tom. I was waved on with both bags. Tom was told in no uncertain terms he had to check at least one bag. At first the argument was about weight. I heard Tom say: “I weigh 75 kg, look at this fecker.” (pointing towards me – and admittedly I weigh somewhat more.) Then Tom was told that if his bag fell on anyone then it might cause them harm. Sure – but then my Apple power cord makes a darned good strangulation device in the wrong hands. Tom was then told he could not take two bags into the main cabin. Harrumph – so that’s the EasyJet/RyanAir (ripoff) argument.

Despite Tom’s logical protestations, there was no way he was going to win the argument and was asked to resolve with the Air Berlin or is it Fly Niki(?) staff.  No joy. He tried finagling the system by collapsing his backpack into his rollalong to magically turn two into one. But no – Air Berlin was waiting for him at the boarding gate – insisting on weighing people’s carry on (note: excluding backpacks.) In trying to meet Air Berlin’s in individually imposed terms, Tom had transgressed the weight rule and was left in the embarrassing position of having to disgorge contents from his rollalong (hmmm…nice shirts…) while others stepped around him. It was demeaning and totally un-necessary given the flight was barely half full.

There’s a reason people like Tom and I travel the way we do. Too often baggage gets lost. For the occasional traveler that’s a relatively minor inconvenience but for folk like Tom and I where we are traveling a lot, it’s a major source of problem. In this case, the transfer time for both of use was sub one hour. Given we’re talking Spanish baggage handlers (who are a law unto themselves at the best of times), there was no guarantee that Tom’s rollalong would make the connecting flight.

Are we being overly picky? I think not. Travel logistics are messed up at the best of times. That’s why many of my colleagues try book our own flights in the certain knowledge of what we’re doing. How bad is it?

Tom was understandably annoyed. Why should two different passengers standing side by side be treated differently at pretty much the same time. There is no logic to that treatment. For goodness sake, Tom’s more amiable than I and that at least should have counted in his favour. And this for a company that has as its watchword: ‘The passenger comes first.’ If you take Tom’s experience at face value that’s clearly a terminological inexactitude.

The upshot? See this Tweet:

@DT You think there is a market for an airline which differentiates itself by actually giving a crap about it’s passengers?

The airlines are out of control. The way many of them treat passengers is little better than cattle going to the slaughterhouse. Prices are trending down and it is understandable they’d like to make some sort of profit. But do they have to treat passengers in such a cynical fashion? The idea of low cost airlines is terrific. As consumers we all want something that’s low cost. But when that comes with a nickel and dime attitude to anything beyond the seat then it becomes a farce.

The one/two times a year passenger might make up the flying volume upon which the low cost airlines depend but it is the frequent flyer like Tom and I who understand the inconveniences and annoying bad habits of these companies. We’re the ones who will continue to call them out, however lamely, until things change in favor of the most basic customer service. It’s not that much to ask.

Upshot 2: Tom handed back his Air Berlin frequent flyer card, telling them to stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. Do you blame him? I don’t.

Upshot 3: thankfully, Tom’s checked bag arrived in Sevilla.

Upshot 4: to use an Irishism – I’m tempted to call’ ‘feckers’ on Air Berlin/FlyNiki – but then this is a family friendly site…mostly.

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Hi Dennis - I used to get poo like this at Leeds/Bradford Airport when I was flying regularly to Brussels. The airline (BMI) was great, but the ground handling by Serviceair was totally shocking. The worst I had was (twice) being sent away from the check-in desk to use the electronic check-in thing (which meant queuing up AGAIN) when I knew full well that it was going to tell me to go to the check-in desk. Both times I told the Serviceair cretin this, both times they stood over me while I used their pointless machine, and both times said machine sent me back to queue up again at the check-in desk. On one occassion I actually help a 'Business Class' ticket - and I think that's why the machine sent me back to the desk. Airlines behave ridiculously, and rather like the Mininster of Transport in his police escorted ministerial car, I suspect it's because the people that make these stupid decisions never use their own services.

Hi Dennis - I used to get poo like this at Leeds/Bradford Airport when I was flying regularly to Brussels. The airline (BMI) was great, but the ground handling by Serviceair was totally shocking. The worst I had was (twice) being sent away from the check-in desk to use the electronic check-in thing (which meant queuing up AGAIN) when I knew full well that it was going to tell me to go to the check-in desk. Both times I told the Serviceair cretin this, both times they stood over me while I used their pointless machine, and both times said machine sent me back to queue up again at the check-in desk. On one occassion I actually help a 'Business Class' ticket - and I think that's why the machine sent me back to the desk. Airlines behave ridiculously, and rather like the Mininster of Transport in his police escorted ministerial car, I suspect it's because the people that make these stupid decisions never use their own services.

Hi Dennis - I used to get poo like this at Leeds/Bradford Airport when I was flying regularly to Brussels. The airline (BMI) was great, but the ground handling by Serviceair was totally shocking.

The worst I had was (twice) being sent away from the check-in desk to use the electronic check-in thing (which meant queuing up AGAIN) when I knew full well that it was going to tell me to go to the check-in desk. Both times I told the Serviceair cretin this, both times they stood over me while I used their pointless machine, and both times said machine sent me back to queue up again at the check-in desk. On one occassion I actually help a 'Business Class' ticket - and I think that's why the machine sent me back to the desk.

Airlines behave ridiculously, and rather like the Mininster of Transport in his police escorted ministerial car, I suspect it's because the people that make these stupid decisions never use their own services.

heheh and you are known as the curmudgeon!

heheh and you are known as the curmudgeon!

heheh and you are known as the curmudgeon!

Hi Dennis,This is the type of experience that motivated me to launch <a href="http://www.cost4travel.com," target="_blank">www.cost4travel.com, a travel/finance web site that provides a way for travellers to record and reference their travel prices and experiences, so that other travellers can budget realistically for their upcoming trips.If you've got a minute to check it out, I'd love to get your views about the relevance and usability of the site. It is important for us to get views from travellers to see whether the concept of cost4travel has a future.Thank you for your time and help.Best regards,Stephane Pingaudcost4travel

Hi Dennis,This is the type of experience that motivated me to launch www.cost4travel.com, a travel/finance web site that provides a way for travellers to record and reference their travel prices and experiences, so that other travellers can budget realistically for their upcoming trips.If you've got a minute to check it out, I'd love to get your views about the relevance and usability of the site. It is important for us to get views from travellers to see whether the concept of cost4travel has a future.Thank you for your time and help.Best regards,Stephane Pingaudcost4travel

Hi Dennis,

This is the type of experience that motivated me to launch www.cost4travel.com, a travel/finance web site that provides a way for travellers to record and reference their travel prices and experiences, so that other travellers can budget realistically for their upcoming trips.

If you've got a minute to check it out, I'd love to get your views about the relevance and usability of the site. It is important for us to get views from travellers to see whether the concept of cost4travel has a future.

Thank you for your time and help.

Best regards,

Stephane Pingaud
cost4travel

Airlines can get away with this mainly because the main criteria the infrequent flier has for choosing an airline is price. With airlines generally hurting for revenue, charging the "unprepared" traveler for excess baggage check-in is one way to recoup the cost of low fares.Another is to ensure the staff stay relatively inexperienced by not paying them very much and generally treating them badly until they decide they'd prefer to work elsewhere. You end up with the double-edged sword of a disgruntled worker who doesn't know the system all that well, and in all likelihood really doesn't care about the consumer. Then you have an obvious example where the CEO's negative attitude towards customers permeates through the organization to the lowest levels of staff.I choose to vote with my wallet and pay the extra few quid to airlines that treat me like a human being.

Great post Dennis - thanks.One other thing you didn't hear. When the guy at the checkin desk told me my bag was too heavy & might be a danger if it fell out of the overhead on someone, I offered to take the heavy items out of it and put them in my backpack which would go under the seat in front of me.No joy with that idea either.

Airlines can get away with this mainly because the main criteria the infrequent flier has for choosing an airline is price. With airlines generally hurting for revenue, charging the "unprepared" traveler for excess baggage check-in is one way to recoup the cost of low fares.Another is to ensure the staff stay relatively inexperienced by not paying them very much and generally treating them badly until they decide they'd prefer to work elsewhere. You end up with the double-edged sword of a disgruntled worker who doesn't know the system all that well, and in all likelihood really doesn't care about the consumer. Then you have an obvious example where the CEO's negative attitude towards customers permeates through the organization to the lowest levels of staff.I choose to vote with my wallet and pay the extra few quid to airlines that treat me like a human being.

Airlines can get away with this mainly because the main criteria the infrequent flier has for choosing an airline is price. With airlines generally hurting for revenue, charging the "unprepared" traveler for excess baggage check-in is one way to recoup the cost of low fares.

Another is to ensure the staff stay relatively inexperienced by not paying them very much and generally treating them badly until they decide they'd prefer to work elsewhere. You end up with the double-edged sword of a disgruntled worker who doesn't know the system all that well, and in all likelihood really doesn't care about the consumer. Then you have an obvious example where the CEO's negative attitude towards customers permeates through the organization to the lowest levels of staff.

I choose to vote with my wallet and pay the extra few quid to airlines that treat me like a human being.

Great post Dennis - thanks.One other thing you didn't hear. When the guy at the checkin desk told me my bag was too heavy & might be a danger if it fell out of the overhead on someone, I offered to take the heavy items out of it and put them in my backpack which would go under the seat in front of me.No joy with that idea either.

Great post Dennis - thanks.

One other thing you didn't hear. When the guy at the checkin desk told me my bag was too heavy & might be a danger if it fell out of the overhead on someone, I offered to take the heavy items out of it and put them in my backpack which would go under the seat in front of me.

No joy with that idea either.

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