Comments on: Cloud confusion – self inflicted? http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:01:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Can Cloud vendors move beyond the terminology debate? | CloudAve http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7435 Can Cloud vendors move beyond the terminology debate? | CloudAve Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:27:10 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7435 [...] Dennis suggested this is a self inflicted wound and highlighted how some vendors are avoiding the Cloud term.  Back on those AccountingWEB discussions, Gary Turner of Xero commented: [...] [...] Dennis suggested this is a self inflicted wound and highlighted how some vendors are avoiding the Cloud term.  Back on those AccountingWEB discussions, Gary Turner of Xero commented: [...]

]]> By: Can Cloud vendors move beyond the terminology debate? http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7434 Can Cloud vendors move beyond the terminology debate? Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:20:10 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7434 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7438 David Terrar Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:09:44 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7438 The number of SaaS and Cloud companies that have signed up to Intellect SaaS Group, EuroCloud or the BASDA Cloud SIG gives me some heart. Those companies at least see the need for a unfied voice to the market, and those three groupings cover all the major players and key start ups, at least in the UK. The number of SaaS and Cloud companies that have signed up to Intellect SaaS Group, EuroCloud or the BASDA Cloud SIG gives me some heart. Those companies at least see the need for a unfied voice to the market, and those three groupings cover all the major players and key start ups, at least in the UK.

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7433 David Terrar Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:09:44 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7433 The number of SaaS and Cloud companies that have signed up to Intellect SaaS Group, EuroCloud or the BASDA Cloud SIG gives me some heart. Those companies at least see the need for a unfied voice to the market, and those three groupings cover all the major players and key start ups, at least in the UK. The number of SaaS and Cloud companies that have signed up to Intellect SaaS Group, EuroCloud or the BASDA Cloud SIG gives me some heart. Those companies at least see the need for a unfied voice to the market, and those three groupings cover all the major players and key start ups, at least in the UK.

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-9588 David Terrar Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:09:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-9588 The number of SaaS and Cloud companies that have signed up to Intellect SaaS Group, EuroCloud or the BASDA Cloud SIG gives me some heart. Those companies at least see the need for a unfied voice to the market, and those three groupings cover all the major players and key start ups, at least in the UK. The number of SaaS and Cloud companies that have signed up to Intellect SaaS Group, EuroCloud or the BASDA Cloud SIG gives me some heart. Those companies at least see the need for a unfied voice to the market, and those three groupings cover all the major players and key start ups, at least in the UK.

]]> By: dahowlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7437 dahowlett Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:07:37 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7437 Thanks David. You'd think the industry could agree but as we both know many past attempts at this sort of thing have failed because each vendor wants a piece of some pie. The wild west nature of current innovation and its very public availability is a major contributor to a topic that needs hashing out. Preferably without the marketers poking their noses too much into the process. Thanks David. You'd think the industry could agree but as we both know many past attempts at this sort of thing have failed because each vendor wants a piece of some pie. The wild west nature of current innovation and its very public availability is a major contributor to a topic that needs hashing out. Preferably without the marketers poking their noses too much into the process.

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7436 David Terrar Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:57:34 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7436 I agree it is self inflicted, and the current terminology fog is helping the "Cloud denial" crowd. However, I think the industry can define/settle on Cloud in terms of Software (as a Service), Platform and Infrastucture, used in either the public Cloud, or in private Clouds. Once we are over that hurdle we can get on with explaining the value proposition in simple business language. <BR><BR>We never had this problem with the shift to client/server, but that was because we could see the server in the corner, and trace the wires to our PC client. This new World needs a little more imagination (or do mean faith?).</BR></BR> I agree it is self inflicted, and the current terminology fog is helping the “Cloud denial” crowd. However, I think the industry can define/settle on Cloud in terms of Software (as a Service), Platform and Infrastucture, used in either the public Cloud, or in private Clouds. Once we are over that hurdle we can get on with explaining the value proposition in simple business language.

We never had this problem with the shift to client/server, but that was because we could see the server in the corner, and trace the wires to our PC client. This new World needs a little more imagination (or do mean faith?).

]]> By: dahowlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7432 dahowlett Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:07:37 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7432 Thanks David. You'd think the industry could agree but as we both know many past attempts at this sort of thing have failed because each vendor wants a piece of some pie. The wild west nature of current innovation and its very public availability is a major contributor to a topic that needs hashing out. Preferably without the marketers poking their noses too much into the process. Thanks David. You'd think the industry could agree but as we both know many past attempts at this sort of thing have failed because each vendor wants a piece of some pie. The wild west nature of current innovation and its very public availability is a major contributor to a topic that needs hashing out. Preferably without the marketers poking their noses too much into the process.

]]> By: dahowlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-9583 dahowlett Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:07:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-9583 Thanks David. You'd think the industry could agree but as we both know many past attempts at this sort of thing have failed because each vendor wants a piece of some pie. The wild west nature of current innovation and its very public availability is a major contributor to a topic that needs hashing out. Preferably without the marketers poking their noses too much into the process. Thanks David. You’d think the industry could agree but as we both know many past attempts at this sort of thing have failed because each vendor wants a piece of some pie. The wild west nature of current innovation and its very public availability is a major contributor to a topic that needs hashing out. Preferably without the marketers poking their noses too much into the process.

]]> By: David Terrar http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/12/cloud-confusion-self-inflicted/comment-page-1/#comment-7431 David Terrar Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:57:34 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6059#comment-7431 I agree it is self inflicted, and the current terminology fog is helping the "Cloud denial" crowd. However, I think the industry can define/settle on Cloud in terms of Software (as a Service), Platform and Infrastucture, used in either the public Cloud, or in private Clouds. Once we are over that hurdle we can get on with explaining the value proposition in simple business language. We never had this problem with the shift to client/server, but that was because we could see the server in the corner, and trace the wires to our PC client. This new World needs a little more imagination (or do mean faith?). I agree it is self inflicted, and the current terminology fog is helping the "Cloud denial" crowd. However, I think the industry can define/settle on Cloud in terms of Software (as a Service), Platform and Infrastucture, used in either the public Cloud, or in private Clouds. Once we are over that hurdle we can get on with explaining the value proposition in simple business language. We never had this problem with the shift to client/server, but that was because we could see the server in the corner, and trace the wires to our PC client. This new World needs a little more imagination (or do mean faith?).

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