Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: ICAEW and three industry groups to work out SaaS/cloud standards http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:01:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MichGreen http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7489 MichGreen Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:14:12 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7489 FreeAgent Central support this important initiative which brings constructive discussion and hopefully clarity to the key issues to the benefit of consumers and businesses globally:<br>Enhanced Communication and Innovation<br>Speed and route to market<br>Reduced costs and savings<br>Security improvements<br>Virtual integration<br>Carbon reduction<br>Efficiencies<br><br>There are many benefits but at the moment these are lost in a cloud that for many is decidedly hazy! We welcome and support simplicity and ease of use for the customer and standards that are understood all round. FreeAgent Central support this important initiative which brings constructive discussion and hopefully clarity to the key issues to the benefit of consumers and businesses globally:
Enhanced Communication and Innovation
Speed and route to market
Reduced costs and savings
Security improvements
Virtual integration
Carbon reduction
Efficiencies

There are many benefits but at the moment these are lost in a cloud that for many is decidedly hazy! We welcome and support simplicity and ease of use for the customer and standards that are understood all round.

]]> By: MichGreen http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7488 MichGreen Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:14:12 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7488 FreeAgent Central support this important initiative which brings constructive discussion and hopefully clarity to the key issues to the benefit of consumers and businesses globally:Enhanced Communication and InnovationSpeed and route to marketReduced costs and savingsSecurity improvementsVirtual integrationCarbon reductionEfficienciesThere are many benefits but at the moment these are lost in a cloud that for many is decidedly hazy! We welcome and support simplicity and ease of use for the customer and standards that are understood all round. FreeAgent Central support this important initiative which brings constructive discussion and hopefully clarity to the key issues to the benefit of consumers and businesses globally:Enhanced Communication and InnovationSpeed and route to marketReduced costs and savingsSecurity improvementsVirtual integrationCarbon reductionEfficienciesThere are many benefits but at the moment these are lost in a cloud that for many is decidedly hazy! We welcome and support simplicity and ease of use for the customer and standards that are understood all round.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-9623 Anonymous Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:14:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-9623 FreeAgent Central support this important initiative which brings constructive discussion and hopefully clarity to the key issues to the benefit of consumers and businesses globally: Enhanced Communication and Innovation Speed and route to market Reduced costs and savings Security improvements Virtual integration Carbon reduction Efficiencies There are many benefits but at the moment these are lost in a cloud that for many is decidedly hazy! We welcome and support simplicity and ease of use for the customer and standards that are understood all round. FreeAgent Central support this important initiative which brings constructive discussion and hopefully clarity to the key issues to the benefit of consumers and businesses globally:
Enhanced Communication and Innovation
Speed and route to market
Reduced costs and savings
Security improvements
Virtual integration
Carbon reduction
Efficiencies

There are many benefits but at the moment these are lost in a cloud that for many is decidedly hazy! We welcome and support simplicity and ease of use for the customer and standards that are understood all round.

]]> By: dahowlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7487 dahowlett Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:26:42 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7487 @jason - you are right on many fronts and of course the nature of this is such that compromise is inevitable. My ties are with ICAEW and as the largest body with which trade groups feel happy, it makes absolute sense. <br><br>There is no reason not to include ACCA/CIMA but then it's doubtful there would be any real value since the buyers have mostly the same concerns whereas the vendors have sometimes competing agendas. <br><br>I was not of the view the industry alone would be capable of coming to agreement without all kinds of problem emerging. It has rarely if ever worked in the past. I was very much of the view that ICAEW could articulate the needs of business users far more accurately and work through with industry. @jason – you are right on many fronts and of course the nature of this is such that compromise is inevitable. My ties are with ICAEW and as the largest body with which trade groups feel happy, it makes absolute sense.

There is no reason not to include ACCA/CIMA but then it's doubtful there would be any real value since the buyers have mostly the same concerns whereas the vendors have sometimes competing agendas.

I was not of the view the industry alone would be capable of coming to agreement without all kinds of problem emerging. It has rarely if ever worked in the past. I was very much of the view that ICAEW could articulate the needs of business users far more accurately and work through with industry.

]]> By: dahowlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7491 dahowlett Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:26:42 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7491 @jason - you are right on many fronts and of course the nature of this is such that compromise is inevitable. My ties are with ICAEW and as the largest body with which trade groups feel happy, it makes absolute sense. <br><br>There is no reason not to include ACCA/CIMA but then it's doubtful there would be any real value since the buyers have mostly the same concerns whereas the vendors have sometimes competing agendas. <br><br>I was not of the view the industry alone would be capable of coming to agreement without all kinds of problem emerging. It has rarely if ever worked in the past. I was very much of the view that ICAEW could articulate the needs of business users far more accurately and work through with industry. @jason – you are right on many fronts and of course the nature of this is such that compromise is inevitable. My ties are with ICAEW and as the largest body with which trade groups feel happy, it makes absolute sense.

There is no reason not to include ACCA/CIMA but then it's doubtful there would be any real value since the buyers have mostly the same concerns whereas the vendors have sometimes competing agendas.

I was not of the view the industry alone would be capable of coming to agreement without all kinds of problem emerging. It has rarely if ever worked in the past. I was very much of the view that ICAEW could articulate the needs of business users far more accurately and work through with industry.

]]> By: Jason Holden http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7486 Jason Holden Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:28:56 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7486 I think that any industry that wants to add real credibility needs to have some sort of standard that has to be signed up to and adhered to.<br><br>I personally would like more than only the ICAEW to be involved, as I agree with Pearl, clients really do not care, not only that, what about those accountants who qualified with another body. In this regard I would like to see more of the accounting bodies getting involved together for once, that means ACCA, AIA, CIPFA, CIMA,IFA etc.<br><br>SaaS, like the accounting profession needs to set and maintain its own, possibly higher than current, standards, with a minimum set criteria that is clear and concise.<br><br>Most concerns surround security and ‘what if they go bust’ how do I get my data etc, so this would have to be a starting point.<br><br>Regarding the costs, this really would have to be low and not allowed to become some sort of quango.<br><br>Just my initial thoughts, as a user and avid SaaS/Cloud supporter. I think that any industry that wants to add real credibility needs to have some sort of standard that has to be signed up to and adhered to.

I personally would like more than only the ICAEW to be involved, as I agree with Pearl, clients really do not care, not only that, what about those accountants who qualified with another body. In this regard I would like to see more of the accounting bodies getting involved together for once, that means ACCA, AIA, CIPFA, CIMA,IFA etc.

SaaS, like the accounting profession needs to set and maintain its own, possibly higher than current, standards, with a minimum set criteria that is clear and concise.

Most concerns surround security and ‘what if they go bust’ how do I get my data etc, so this would have to be a starting point.

Regarding the costs, this really would have to be low and not allowed to become some sort of quango.

Just my initial thoughts, as a user and avid SaaS/Cloud supporter.

]]> By: Jason Holden http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7490 Jason Holden Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:28:56 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7490 I think that any industry that wants to add real credibility needs to have some sort of standard that has to be signed up to and adhered to.<br><br>I personally would like more than only the ICAEW to be involved, as I agree with Pearl, clients really do not care, not only that, what about those accountants who qualified with another body. In this regard I would like to see more of the accounting bodies getting involved together for once, that means ACCA, AIA, CIPFA, CIMA,IFA etc.<br><br>SaaS, like the accounting profession needs to set and maintain its own, possibly higher than current, standards, with a minimum set criteria that is clear and concise.<br><br>Most concerns surround security and ‘what if they go bust’ how do I get my data etc, so this would have to be a starting point.<br><br>Regarding the costs, this really would have to be low and not allowed to become some sort of quango.<br><br>Just my initial thoughts, as a user and avid SaaS/Cloud supporter. I think that any industry that wants to add real credibility needs to have some sort of standard that has to be signed up to and adhered to.

I personally would like more than only the ICAEW to be involved, as I agree with Pearl, clients really do not care, not only that, what about those accountants who qualified with another body. In this regard I would like to see more of the accounting bodies getting involved together for once, that means ACCA, AIA, CIPFA, CIMA,IFA etc.

SaaS, like the accounting profession needs to set and maintain its own, possibly higher than current, standards, with a minimum set criteria that is clear and concise.

Most concerns surround security and ‘what if they go bust’ how do I get my data etc, so this would have to be a starting point.

Regarding the costs, this really would have to be low and not allowed to become some sort of quango.

Just my initial thoughts, as a user and avid SaaS/Cloud supporter.

]]> By: philipwoodgate http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7485 philipwoodgate Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:23:28 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7485 The post and comments make excellent reading. I believe that SME's in particular can benefit by SaaS/cloud. Anything that gives clarity and ensures suppliers are meeting minimum requirements through sensible standards gets my vote. The post and comments make excellent reading. I believe that SME's in particular can benefit by SaaS/cloud. Anything that gives clarity and ensures suppliers are meeting minimum requirements through sensible standards gets my vote.

]]> By: philipwoodgate http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-7492 philipwoodgate Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:23:28 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-7492 The post and comments make excellent reading. I believe that SME's in particular can benefit by SaaS/cloud. Anything that gives clarity and ensures suppliers are meeting minimum requirements through sensible standards gets my vote. The post and comments make excellent reading. I believe that SME's in particular can benefit by SaaS/cloud. Anything that gives clarity and ensures suppliers are meeting minimum requirements through sensible standards gets my vote.

]]> By: dahowlett http://www.accmanpro.com/2009/12/17/exclusive-icaew-and-three-industry-groups-to-work-out-saascloud-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-9620 dahowlett Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:26:00 +0000 http://www.accmanpro.com/?p=6133#comment-9620 @jason - you are right on many fronts and of course the nature of this is such that compromise is inevitable. My ties are with ICAEW and as the largest body with which trade groups feel happy, it makes absolute sense. There is no reason not to include ACCA/CIMA but then it's doubtful there would be any real value since the buyers have mostly the same concerns whereas the vendors have sometimes competing agendas. I was not of the view the industry alone would be capable of coming to agreement without all kinds of problem emerging. It has rarely if ever worked in the past. I was very much of the view that ICAEW could articulate the needs of business users far more accurately and work through with industry. @jason – you are right on many fronts and of course the nature of this is such that compromise is inevitable. My ties are with ICAEW and as the largest body with which trade groups feel happy, it makes absolute sense.

There is no reason not to include ACCA/CIMA but then it’s doubtful there would be any real value since the buyers have mostly the same concerns whereas the vendors have sometimes competing agendas.

I was not of the view the industry alone would be capable of coming to agreement without all kinds of problem emerging. It has rarely if ever worked in the past. I was very much of the view that ICAEW could articulate the needs of business users far more accurately and work through with industry.

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