Excel junkies in the Dark Ages

by admin on April 14, 2010

in Cloud Computing/SaaS

I don’t know if it is me or whether the class of reader attracted to AccountingWeb are constitutionally incapable of taking off the blinkers but this post by John Stokdyk sums up all that is wrong in the muddle headed views of Excel junkies. Example:

O’Bierne (aka Excel author and EuSpRIG stawart sysmod) described the typical scenario that faces many accountants: every month they have to download data from a variety of databases (accounts, sales and so on); they then spend days copying, pasting, sorting, filtering and manually re-classifying data to get it into the shape they want. Then someone will want to see a different view, so for a set of accounts structured in 4-4-5 periods, one department might want to see reports by calendar month, while another wants  13 four-weekly periods. Or one consumer may want an analysis based around different groupings than the main chart of accounts.

There are data query tools such as the popular Crystal Reports, but in O’Beirne’s view “that just gets the data”. What working accountants need is something to automate the slicing and dicing. How to people cope in the field, he wondered.

As might be expected, the question attracted numerous suppliers of Excel reporting tools and Add-ins

I’m not picking on Patrick O’Bierne in particular. He is a well meaning fellow. I certainly think John’s post title is misleading: Management reporting: Is there an alternative to Excel? Nothing in the article pointed to an alternative that is independent of Microsoft spreadsheet based solutions. The problem is that the moment Excel gets mentioned, it’s almost like the ONLY reality IS Excel. It IS NOT. Check a few facts:

  1. Most of the accounting systems mentioned in the article were never designed with reporting or analysis in mind. That’s a fundamental design flaw.
  2. For many people, Excel was the only way to get something resembling either a P&L account for a very long time. It is therefore no surprise that they believe Excel is the only way to go. It is not an excuse for failing to consider alternatives.
  3. Designing reporting and analysis tools is not trivial. So why should anyone think that getting it right in Excel is going to  be easy or for that matter useful?
  4. The advent of SaaS systems has changed the game. To some extent. Current solutions offer at least some level of analysis that will provide business owners with key data. There is a long way to go but the SaaS vendors know they have to get their act together because the data they hold is incredibly useful.

All of which means professionals should at least be hunting down alternatives. That should be a matter of professional courtesy to the needs of clients. Unfortunately, for as long as professionals maintain their unproductive and downright dangerous addiction to Excel, then little will change.

In recent times I’ve come across Indicee which offers an online reporting and analysis tool. They have an upcoming event: Business Intelligence (BI) 101 for Accountants – Free Live Webcast – which should answer some professional concerns. It is early, it won’t have everything professionals might want but it gets them away from the interminable nightmare of building spreadsheet models that require maintenance, regression testing, validation, documentation and sense testing. Who pays for all that? Indicee is a call to the future. Check it out with an open mind. Now tell me. What’s not to understand here?

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I have to admit to taking an interest in why Excel is so widely (mis)used. Over the years I have seen a number of themes emerging. By the far the most common is "its there and I know it". But perhaps the hidden reason, underpinning even that, is "its mine, not ITs". Strange how the relationship between techies and users has developed. Can't think why!

The point is that there is a lot of it out there - and as in life a bit is good, a bit is bad, but mostly its just mediocre. As it happens some of my moderate living comes from sorting out messes in other apps. Its not just Excel that PEOPLE cock up!

I have to admit to taking an interest in why Excel is so widely (mis)used. Over the years I have seen a number of themes emerging. By the far the most common is "its there and I know it". But perhaps the hidden reason, underpinning even that, is "its mine, not ITs". Strange how the relationship between techies and users has developed. Can't think why!

I have to admit to taking an interest in why Excel is so widely (mis)used. Over the years I have seen a number of themes emerging. By the far the most common is "its there and I know it". But perhaps the hidden reason, underpinning even that, is "its mine, not ITs". Strange how the relationship between techies and users has developed. Can't think why!

Alpha Five may do a lot of what people want for business intelligence, as long as they don't need fancy graphs on their reports. The report writer can build reports from an ODBC connecton, and it can create live active link tables from ODBC connections. The build in functions are more powerful and easier to use than excel or access, and user defined functions can be created so that it may be possible to analyze data without creating a new table or programming. The report writer has a few unique tricks up its sleeve. Most properties of individual report elements can be modified based on the values, so you could do something like have a number change color depending on the value. Conditional areas can also be created, so different detail layouts can be achieved in the same report.

Alpha Five may do a lot of what people want for business intelligence, as long as they don't need fancy graphs on their reports. The report writer can build reports from an ODBC connecton, and it can create live active link tables from ODBC connections. The build in functions are more powerful and easier to use than excel or access, and user defined functions can be created so that it may be possible to analyze data without creating a new table or programming. The report writer has a few unique tricks up its sleeve. Most properties of individual report elements can be modified based on the values, so you could do something like have a number change color depending on the value. Conditional areas can also be created, so different detail layouts can be achieved in the same report.

Alpha Five may do a lot of what people want for business intelligence, as long as they don't need fancy graphs on their reports. The report writer can build reports from an ODBC connecton, and it can create live active link tables from ODBC connections.

The build in functions are more powerful and easier to use than excel or access, and user defined functions can be created so that it may be possible to analyze data without creating a new table or programming.

The report writer has a few unique tricks up its sleeve. Most properties of individual report elements can be modified based on the values, so you could do something like have a number change color depending on the value. Conditional areas can also be created, so different detail layouts can be achieved in the same report.

@alastair: "I have made a goodish living out of sorting out Excel messes - so I'm not complaining." - says it all.

The addiction to Excel might be dangerous, but it is hardly unproductive, and I would find it hard to agree that its a fundamental design flaw that accounting apps are not designed with reporting in mind. I have spent a large part of my working life trying to inculcate a more appropriate attitude to Excel in my colleagues - it is an uphill struggle.But it is positioned as a BI tool, and if you keep the data and the templates separate then it is no worse than many of the other offerings in the market place; and I have made a goodish living out of sorting out Excel messes - so I'm not complaining.

The addiction to Excel might be dangerous, but it is hardly unproductive, and I would find it hard to agree that its a fundamental design flaw that accounting apps are not designed with reporting in mind. I have spent a large part of my working life trying to inculcate a more appropriate attitude to Excel in my colleagues - it is an uphill struggle.But it is positioned as a BI tool, and if you keep the data and the templates separate then it is no worse than many of the other offerings in the market place; and I have made a goodish living out of sorting out Excel messes - so I'm not complaining.

@alastair: "I have made a goodish living out of sorting out Excel messes - so I'm not complaining." - says it all.

The point is that there is a lot of it out there - and as in life a bit is good, a bit is bad, but mostly its just mediocre. As it happens some of my moderate living comes from sorting out messes in other apps. Its not just Excel that PEOPLE cock up!

The addiction to Excel might be dangerous, but it is hardly unproductive, and I would find it hard to agree that its a fundamental design flaw that accounting apps are not designed with reporting in mind.

I have spent a large part of my working life trying to inculcate a more appropriate attitude to Excel in my colleagues - it is an uphill struggle.

But it is positioned as a BI tool, and if you keep the data and the templates separate then it is no worse than many of the other offerings in the market place; and I have made a goodish living out of sorting out Excel messes - so I'm not complaining.

@alastair: "I have made a goodish living out of sorting out Excel messes - so I'm not complaining." - says it all.

The point is that there is a lot of it out there - and as in life a bit is good, a bit is bad, but mostly its just mediocre. As it happens some of my moderate living comes from sorting out messes in other apps. Its not just Excel that PEOPLE cock up!

Your point re: Excel is well made. If you have an up to date list then feel free to throw it over the wall to here in a comment and I'll put it as an update into the main post.

Excel may never die but the information it contains is out of date the moment you save the file. It may be OK for accounts departments where the data is fixed but for management reporting it is poor. There are many cloud based solutions that provide up to the minute reporting that more accurately shows the health of the business.

Excel may never die but the information it contains is out of date the moment you save the file. It may be OK for accounts departments where the data is fixed but for management reporting it is poor. There are many cloud based solutions that provide up to the minute reporting that more accurately shows the health of the business.

Your point re: Excel is well made. If you have an up to date list then feel free to throw it over the wall to here in a comment and I'll put it as an update into the main post.

Excel may never die but the information it contains is out of date the moment you save the file. It may be OK for accounts departments where the data is fixed but for management reporting it is poor. There are many cloud based solutions that provide up to the minute reporting that more accurately shows the health of the business.

Your point re: Excel is well made. If you have an up to date list then feel free to throw it over the wall to here in a comment and I'll put it as an update into the main post.

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